25 Caliber Pistol for Personal Defense

When people think of having a backup pistol, “Dirty Harry” pistol usually comes to mind.

With the decline in small caliber pistol for personal protection. Having a full size pistol isn’t practical to have in all situations, there is a time and place for the smaller guns, even the 25 ACP. There are some experienced gun instructors that still believes there is still a place for it. For example, Claude Werner of Tactical Professor. Claude is experienced in IDPA, NRA certified gun instructor and a retired military Special Operations Officer.
With all the weapons training that Claude has gone through and certified to instruct firearms employment. He still thinks outside the convention beliefs that a smaller .32 caliber can protect yourself.

He states it has to do with what we’ve been taught and conditioned into believing that a larger caliber with the knock down power will solve the problem. Claude goes on to explain that in law enforcement its their job to stop the threat and apprehend the perpetrator. Having a larger caliber handgun helps stop the threat.
So when we look at this application for personal protection, yes the firepower is necessary. But in most self-defense scenarios documented by law enforcement shows that when a bad guy gets shot from the defender. They usually run away, for law enforcement its their job to apprehend them. But, for the private citizen, (Joe like us) once the shots have been fired and the bad guy runs away. The threat is gone, you can now call the police to get after them.

Its about the Indian not the Arrow

cqb shooting
As you can see from this similar scenario but from two different view points. Having that larger caliber pistol may be the way to go but the goal of any life threatening situation is to stop the attack.
Stopping the attack does not mean to end a person’s life with a big .357 magnum. It means to stop them from attacking you, even with a .25 caliber pocket pistol. Think it can’t be done?



Yes these .380, .32, 22lr or 25’s are little pop gun, its about putting that pop in the right place, then it becomes a lot more effective. Just to reiterate, Claude Werner is not saying caliber doesn’t matter.
Claude claims its about the Indian not the arrow. However, the average gun shopper/owner is focused on the arrow. So yes there needs to be much training on not just on marksmanship (for close quarter) but the whole self-defense gambit as well.

Still unconvinced if the .25 ACP is not the caliber to have as a backup. Lets take a look at some basic arguments like pitting the .25 cal to the 22LR and .380. Its obvious we’re not going to go against the heavier caliber like the .45ACP. Yes, most of this is in a control environment so take it with a grain of salt. First up lets take a look at how the .25 cal fares against the 22LR.

.25 ACP vs .22LR

Is the .25 ACP better than the 22LR? They say the .22 LR is slightly more powerful when fired from longer rifle barrels, the .25 ACP is viewed by some personal defense experts as a better choice for personal defense handguns due to its centerfire-case design, which is inherently more reliable than a rimfire cartridge.
I guess you can say some of these comments are just opinions from keyboard commandos. The following observation (test) was done by Paul Harrell. He actually went out and shot a few to see the results. You can view the video below instead of reading our summary here. Obviously, this is not the official way of testing but it is a sensible approach.
Paul fired both calibers through a chronograph to see the velocity, he went beyond just the average ammo type. Paul compared these calibers with pocket guns for both calibers. Here’s what he uncovered:
25 ACP velocities at 7 yards: 725, 727, 718, 730 (50 grain FMJ)
22 LR velocities at 7 yards: 860, 840, 850, 850 (36 grain HP)
Once switched to Hornady Critical Defense 35 grain jacket hollow point, 25 caliber.
25 ACP velocities at 7 yards: 865, 866, 875, 855 (35 grain JHP)
After demonstrating this, he concludes “the difference between the two isn’t even worth talking about.”
For accuracy Paul shoots from the 10 yard, even though the FBI states most gunfights happens within 7 yards. Both calibers did well maintaining a 6 inch group while shooting rapidly, this will vary depending on the skill of the shooter.
Paul also shot at some soda pop can (1) and bottles (2) which both calibers pass with flying colors. This was the poor man testing for penetration.
Further demonstration shows that little pistols in either caliber will allow a good shooter to make accurate shots at 10 yards.
The bottom line is that within these two calibers, there isn’t much differences in performances.

.25 ACP vs .380

Once you’ve decided to carry a .25 cal mouse gun, you’ll need to consider its performance capability. Right off the bat mighty mouse .25 caliber guns are at a disadvantage when it comes to knock down power. So before we get into the terminal ballistics of the smaller caliber, there are other factors to consider when we’re looking at a self-defense caliber. Lets remember that any type of holes put into a bad guy and stops them from attacking you is a good thing.

We’ll take a look at a Beretta 950 Jetfire and see how it performs against a Smith&Wesson Bodyguard .380 to give you an idea. Concealment is its main advantage for the Beretta, this pistol is even smaller than the .380 pistol. With a smaller profile makes it even easier to conceal.
The pistol weighs 11.5 ounces fully loaded with 9 rounds. This pistol is lighter than a Smith&Wesson Bodyguard. (14.2 ounces loaded with 7 rounds)
Some of the down size is that there isn’t any rear sights on it, just a front notch but a little hard to rack.

Run Comparisons – Failure Drill
The .25 has hardly any recoil, short single action trigger. The .380 (Bodyguard) has a snappy recoil with long double action trigger. Here’s a side by side testing, some may think this all has to do with the shooter (Indian). We’ll get back to this in a bit.

This handgun test conducted by Lucky Gunner used the Failure drill. Which consists of two shots to the torso and one to the head (T section), all starting from the low ready position. The drill was ran six times, first three from 3 yards and last three drills from the 7 yards.

failure drill results
Results

The S&W Bodyguard had the advantage at the 7 yard. At that range clearly the use of the sights was a dominant factor. At the 3 yards the sights was less of an issue due to the proximity of the target. So speed is of the essences. With almost no recoil with single action trigger from the .25 caliber gave the Beretta a speed advantage.

Based on the observation of this performance, a clear winner to carry would be the S&W Bodyguard. The rationale is that its easier to practice with the Bodyguard and get a high percentage of shots on target than it is to point shoot with the Beretta.

Pistol Size
Something else to consider is the size of the pistol. Everyone has different size hands, so choosing a smaller caliber pistol can present a problem for some. This will require you to take a pistol for a trial run for a fit and feel.

Ballistic Gel Test

Using the gel test is a good way to see how a quality load performs using the FBI standards. A good penetration would be about 12 inches, this simulates a good real life performance.
35 grain Speer Gold Dot
This load was used for the test. Resulting, four out of five rounds expanded a bit without a deep penetration. So this isn’t useful but for a small caliber like this is typical for small hollow points.
This is what happens when we sacrifice expansion for penetration. Most gun experts will say to go with non-expanding full metal jacket loads for pocket guns.
American Eagle 50 grain FMJ
This load average penetration deph was 12.3 inches. As you can see the penetration was really good. Does that mean its the ideal loads to go with for personal protection? There are some information that was conducted by Greg Ellifaitz on “Stopping Power” that states this load is still not adequate for personal protection.
Greg Ellifaitz “Stopping Power” study was based on data collected from 1800 real world shootings. The chart shows the ones that were shot with a .25 caliber, 35% were not incapacitated no matter how many times the BG (bad guy) was hit. The other caliber that has similar stats is the .22 LR was at 31 percent. Greg concluded that those 30 some odd percent BG did not change their behavior. They were still the aggressor.
When compared this to the larger calibers such as .380’s, 38 Special and 9mm. There was about 13-17% failed to incapacitate. Looking at it from just this perspective without any context, the smaller caliber sucked for personal protection.
This data doesn’t go into factors in each scenario only recording the aftermath.


Last Shot
So getting back to the main question – is using the smaller .25 caliber a good choice for personal protection?
Most people will say no, but only as a last option if you really need to have one. For the minority few, this gun will fit in those unique situations where you can pounced lead multiple times at close range quickly with almost no recoil. You can’t beat a .25 ACP at that level.

Sig P365 Review – Pocket Gun on Steroids

Small in Size and Stature, but Big in Performance!

Introducing the game-changing P365 High-Capacity Micro-Compact. The revolutionary new concealed carry pistol that gives you more capacity, more concealability and more capability. It’s the one gun you can carry every day of the year.
The P365 was selected by the NRA’s Shooting Illustrated Magazine as their Golden Bullseye winner for 2019 Handgun of the Year. You can take their word or maybe you take a P365 out for a run. The following are remarks and comments from other shooters. Many of these shooters like comparing one to another to get a gauge for performance and any function differences.
The Sig P365 9mm came out to serve the needs of the majority. A compact size pistol for CCW with good accuracy and reliability. Usually, most would think of Glocks as the industry standard.

Grip
Many shooters are saying the P365 is either smaller or the same size as the Glock43 with an extra 4 round capacity. The trigger grip is supposed to be more comfortable due to its design. Word has it that the P365 takes some of its design cues from the X-Series of P320 pistols particularly in its stippling and the smooth undercut of the trigger guard. The undercut allows the shooter to get an even higher grip on the gun for greater control and flatter shooting.
Former 1st SFOD-Delta Kyle Lamb of Viking Tactical had positive comments about the P365 grip:

While there is positive feedback there are some negative. Some shooters had complain about the slide-lock lever brushing up on the support-hand thumb knuckle when using a high forward support hand.
The backstrap and beavertail of the grip is cut so that the gun sits nicely in the webbing of the hand.
Stippling on the grip is effective and comfortable. The gun sticks in the hand like it should without being too aggressive for more sensitive skin.

Trigger
The trigger press when fired was quick and easy. Manufacture trigger pull info comes in at 6 pounds. Many shooters stated, “the feel was lighter than that.”
Trigger reset is short and distinct. Initial take-up of the trigger is light and free. The travel of the trigger once you feel the resistance in the stroke is about a quarter-inch. Pressing the trigger through the stroke is smooth and even. Once it breaks there is no over-travel.
The length of pull for shooters with small hands will have no problem working the trigger, and larger-handed folks will be able to use it comfortably.

Sights

The XRAY3 Day/Night Sights are excellent, very visible and bright in both daylight and low-light conditions. These babies replaced the SIG-Lite Night Sights when the P365 first came out on the market due to the breakage of the tritium vials during the violent recoil.
The rear sights are two tritium dots that show up very nicely in low light. While you can see the two rear dots in the daytime, I don’t really notice them. What you get while shooting quickly is a very bright front sight that is easy to find in the rear notch.

Shootability

The little gun that shoots like a big gun. Just as it sounds, Sig design this micro 9mm (pocket gun) to shoot and feel as if its the full size pistol.
The recoil with the P365 is deceptive. Its is true that most small guns snap when shot. But some shooters are saying it FEELS less snappy than similar guns. As a matter of fact you can witness how flat the gun is while Riley T Bowman shoots this pocket gun shared in this video.
https://youtu.be/dmSYBrSQLaQ
Obviously, this all depends on how tight you’re holding that pistol. However, its still impressive to see.

Magazine Capacity
For the size and thickness of the P365 to be able to fit 10 or 12 rounds into a profile that doesn’t look any bigger than an S&W Shield. The 12 round mag feels decent on larger than small hands as it extends the grip length, it is still just barely longer than some other guns with standard capacity magazines in them. Just for gee whiz info, the M&P Shield with a factory 8-round magazine is longer than the P365.

Final Shot
Most Sig P365 converters have been Glock43 fanatics. They were all surprised to see how well the P365 fit comfortably in their hands. The P365 definitely filled some big shoes for the CCW community.
The Glock43 considered the most reliable and the converts have sworn that they can shoot the P365 faster with accuracy than the Glock43.
The capacity may be the game changer, which doubles the Glock43.
For personal defense this P365 is very accurate at 10 yards, even for the average shooters. Have you a Sig P365 yet?

Here’s Taran Butler of Taran Tactical running the P365.

Sig Sauer P365 Specs:

Mossberg MC1sc Review

This ain’t no Shotgun, Mossberg First Handgun in 100 Years & Online Sentiments from Keyboard Commandos

Like every year, the New Year brings us new guns. Manufacturers ramp up prior to SHOT Show by unveiling their latest and greatest. This year Mossberg made a big splash releasing its first handgun in 100 years with the all-new MC1sc. Their first handgun was the Trapper. A four-shot pistol marketed to trappers for dispatching game.


Mossberg new pistol MC1sc is a polymer subcompact striker-fired pistol.
Chambered in 9mm and it comes with both six-round flush and seven-round extended magazines. This pistol is worthy for the CCW carrier including the minority pocket carry crowd.

Beginning of the year with the announcement of the gun stirred up the social media community. (in plenty of different directions.)
Most responses were positive, with a lot of interest in the MC1sc just because it’s from Mossberg.
However, there is that negative internet groupies that voiced their opinion about the gun without actually taking the MC1sc for a run.

These critiques from keyboard commandos not to be taken seriously, but in light gesture. Think you know by now that everyone on the internet thinks they are the expert with good opinions. Not.

Here’s a look at some of the things we’re talking about.

Mossberg MC1sc Looks Like
These folks think the MC1sc looks like every handguns under the rainbow.
Here’s the main comments that caught our attention.

  • “Oh look, it’s a bootleg S&W Sheild.” (Guess nobody ever taught this guy “‘I’ before ‘E’ except after ‘C.’”)
  • “Looks like a M&P Shield had a baby with a Springfield XD.”
  • “If a Shield and a Taurus G2C had a baby.”
  • “Made by Taurus?”
  • “Looks like a knock-off Glock.”
  • “Profile sure looks like a G43.”
  • “Looks like a cross between a Glock and a P365.”
  • “It looks like a Ruger SR9.”
  • “Looks like a mix between a Walter and a Ruger.” (We left “Walter” as is because it made us laugh. We realize it’s “Walther,” but we like to picture “Walter” as an 80-year-old curmudgeon who makes handguns in his basement while his wife berates him for not taking out the trash again.)
  • “Walther is going to sue someone.”
  • “Looks like a Kahr.”
  • “Looks to me a lot like the Honor Guard pistol that was out a few years ago.”

Everyone seems to think the Mossberg MC1sc looks like every popular pistol out on the market. Yeah, it’s supposed to be a pistol — that’s what it is. And then, when a manufacturer comes out with something different, these are the first people to yell, “Gimmick! This thing looks ridiculous!”

Who cares what the MC1sc looks like? How about focusing on how it runs? So far the reviews from actual shooters have been stellar.

Caliber Debate
We’re not going to get into ballistics and caliber performance or 9mm vs. .45 because the debate never ends. But to dismiss a handgun based on the fact that it’s 9mm in this day and age is ridiculous.
Its all about “Shot placement,” even the FBI will agree with this statement.

Historically, Mossberg will always be known for its shotguns and rifles, the performance of which is above the scale. However, there is always one in the crowd that thinks differently. Not sure if any of these keyboard commandos knows guns, could be trolling. Most of us normal gun owners knows Mossberg is the real deal.
There is usually one read that gets it, they said: “If it’s reliable as their shotguns then I’d buy it.”

MC1sc Performances
Yes, we could have talked all about the gun performances at the beginning. From most people that have shot the MC1sc the remarks have been positive vs from the keyboard commandos. Many people that have shot this little pistol were surprised in many ways. One of them is that the pistol doesn’t snap like most small pocket guns. The pistol is very accurate at rapid fire out to 25 yard with none reported malfunction. Some shooters have stated its accuracy can be compared to the Glock43.
Trigger pull was roughly at around 5 pounds.
The MC1sc sight is a 3-dot design and snag free, some shooters may like it or not.
We’re going to leave out the disassembling out, some folks are saying its not exactly intuitive to do this.

Types of ammo that was used were: (not the complete list here)
Fiocchi 115 Grain FMJ
Federal Syntech Training Match 124 Grain
Remington UMC 115 Grain FMJ
Winchester White Box 115 Grain FMJ

Mossberg MC1sc Specifications & Features
Barrel 3.4” DLC Barrel
Frame Glass Reinforced Polymer, Matte Black
Slide 416 Stainless Steel, DLC
Trigger Flat-profile trigger with integrated blade safety
Trigger Press 4.9 lb. Avg.
Magazines 6-Round Flush-Fit / 7-Round Extended Clear-Count Polymer
Height 104.39mm | 4.11”
Width 26.61mm | 1.10”
Length 160.48mm | 6.39”
Weight 538g | 1lb. 2.98 oz.
Safeties Trigger with integrated blade safety
Grips Aggressive signature Mossberg grip texturing.
Other 1-Year Limited Warranty; Reversible magazine release; Safe Takedown System; Multi-angle slide serrations
MSRP $421
Street Price $299

Take it for a Run First
Bottom line: Before shouting out your verdict on a gun that you haven’t fired, might want to put it through a test run first. If you run it and have issues with performance or mechanics, that’s a different story. Just like in life, you don’t know until you try it.

Here’s a quick review from the TheFireArmGuy.

Quick word on Pocket Carry
There are many good IWB holsters that you can get. But, lets take a look at the minority crowd within the CCW folks. The “pocket carrier”. This MC1sc single stack is small enough to pocket carry.
If you’re worried about safety, look no further with a CCW Breakaways Skintight holster, which can be carried in just about any type of pants. CCW Breakaways tested the MC1sc and works out just fine.


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The Ideal Conceal IC380 Cell Phone Pistol

The Best Gun is the One you Have with You

What would you think of a gun that you could carry in plain sight, was easily accessible in your back pocket or a belt holster, and wouldn’t attract the slightest attention? Nobody would look twice at it, even if you were in a T-shirt, with no jacket, and they were standing right next to you in the supermarket check-out line, or even if you were wearing only shorts and sneakers playing Frisbee at the park.
This invisible gun could save your life in a desperate situation, when its appearance would come as a complete surprise to an attacker. Because it’s invisible, nobody you interact with socially or professionally ever knows you carry a gun for self-defense either. In places where gun ownership is equated with crime and mayhem in the minds of citizens, this invisible gun could save its user a lot of unnecessary social friction.

This idea of an invisible gun is what got the mind of Kirk Kjellberg stewing and led him to invent a double barrel, .380 ACP Derringer with the appearance of a common smartphone. Kjellberg formed Ideal Conceal to manufacture his unique pistol.
“The first rule of gunfighting is have a gun.” This is perhaps Jeff Cooper’s best known quote. The famous lawman-turned-tactical-shooting-guru was making the point that self-defense begins with the “self.” Seems obvious, right? Yet in the recent rash of heinous mass-shooting attacks directed against innocent city dwellers in crowded public venues by deranged gunmen, it doesn’t appear that anyone on the receiving end was prepared to fight back. The police responded efficiently to these attacks, but the death and injury inflicted by the gunmen was staggering. In Dayton, Ohio, the police arrived in half a minute and killed the attacker, but not before he shot 36 people.

In the El Paso, Texas, Walmart, it took cops over six minutes to get there and the attacker shot 46 people. At the Gilroy, California, Garlic Festival, the attacker shot 13 people before he was killed by police, just under a minute after he began his rampage. At that event there was a substantial police presence for security, which apparently didn’t dissuade the attack. Nobody can really prepare thoroughly for dealing with crazy anyway. Nobody can ensure your protection and safety in a public place either, though they may try their best. Your safety is always on you.

CONSIDER WHAT MIGHT have happened in Dayton, El Paso and Gilroy, if just one good person unfortunate enough to be present at these tragic, insane murder sprees was armed and fired just one shot in response. Let’s say the good person’s single shot missed the attacker and impacted harmlessly into the wall. Might it have diverted the attacker’s attention, caused him to pause, take cover, or perhaps withdraw? It might have saved some lives, or might have cost more. We can’t know. But, at the very least, it would have been an act of active resistance, a brave attempt to bring the murderous madness to a stop.
That is not to say that any private citizen should be expected to demonstrate heroism in that type of situation, though some did, despite being unarmed. Soldiers march to the sound of the guns but ordinary citizens usually don’t. Kids, adults or elderly, whether soccer moms or welders, truck drivers or short order cooks, can’t be criticized for running like heck from a life-threatening situation.

That’s part of nature’s “fight or flight” reaction that all Earth’s living, thinking creatures share. What might you or I do in a situation like that? It would probably depend a lot on the circumstances: alone or with family, close or far from the attacker, armed or unarmed?
Fight is the other side of the survival instinct we all possess. If we must fight, being armed improves our chances of staying alive. If you assume you can maintain a calculating presence of mind in a life-threatening situation, you probably also assume being armed will figure into your choice of actions. Even if you don’t possess what soldiers call “coolness under fire,” being armed at least gives you the ability to fight back when you have no other choice. An old army colonel I worked for years ago once told me, “Even a bunny will fight when it’s cornered.” Personally, if I’m ever that bunny, I want to be an armed bunny.
The thing all these recent shootings have in common is that they took place in urban and suburban settings where a large percentage of the population holds negative opinions toward gun ownership. Just because a person lives in a thickly populated region doesn’t mean they are anti-gun stooges for the Democratic Party, but statistically they are pretty likely to be, and they’re also likely to be unarmed. That doesn’t make them bad people. They’re usually just ignorant despite the pretensions to education and refined judgment that the more comfortably situated and well-to-do ones often demonstrate.
I live in rural Kentucky, but I hear these misinformed and defenseless unfortunates on National Public Radio all day long. If you have to live and work in America’s cities and heavily populated areas, you’re stuck with the people there. You’ll want to enlighten them about responsible gun ownership and defend the Constitution’s Second Amendment, but if you do that too much, it can have real consequences for your social and professional life. I recently attended a dinner party with old friends in New Jersey who recently took up target and trap shooting with gusto. However, they warned me not to mention their interest in getting a handgun for self-defense to the other guests. What a shame that they felt they had to keep their recent epiphanies about gun ownership secret for reasons of sociability.

THE SOCIABILITY OF gun ownership was one of the factors that Kjellberg gave considerable thought to in designing his gun so it wouldn’t look like a gun at all. He made the cell phone pistol for people who don’t carry guns at all because they live and work in areas with strong social anti-gun bias. Living in a liberal suburb of Minneapolis, Minnesota, he’s observed first-hand the negative attitudes toward the shooting sports and the Second Amendment commonly held by urbanites and cultivated by their Democratic city governments and liberal news media. Kjellberg created the IC380 cell phone pistol as a means for those who want to legally arm themselves for protection, to do so with maximum discretion and avoid the ill will and social fallout of conflicts with their anti-gun neighbors, acquaintances and business contacts. It’s a niche market perhaps, but so were sword canes in the 19th century.
As a two-shot derringer, the IC380 is no Glock 43. However, that was never Kjellberg’s goal. His objective was to get people who don’t exercise their right to carry a concealed handgun for self-defense to start doing it, and just as importantly, to keep doing it.
“I don’t expect or advocate those already legally carrying more efficient and larger capacity revolvers and auto-loading self-defense handguns to switch to the IC380,” he says. “I don’t care what you carry. I just want law-abiding citizens to carry because they make us all safer when they do.”

I will admit a fascination with clever designs. A .380 ACP Derringer disguised as a smartphone is the type of thing you’d expect to see in the next James Bond movie. That’s surely part of its attraction and it caused a stir inside and outside the shooting community. Critics, pro- and anti-gun, claim it’s likely to get people killed in confrontations with police or that it’s a danger to children who are inclined to play with cell phones. Time will tell, I suppose, but I expect this to be the case. I believe that the IC380 is actually the first of many more disguised self-defense arms to come.

ON THE RANGE, my test pistol worked reliably and proved simple to use, as well as adequately accurate for confident self-defense shooting at 7 yards. It’s also built like a bank vault. In fact, Kjellberg drove his minivan over one and the only damage he noted were some small scratches on the gun’s black, hard-coat, anodized finish. The two-part frame and hinged barrel block are machined aluminum and the fold-up grip is sheet steel. The barrels are stainless steel sleeves pressed into the aluminum barrel block. The remaining parts are hardened steel alloys. The frame halves are screwed together, aligned, and largely sealed up from dirt infiltration by a tongue-and-groove joint.
To fire the pistol, the sheet metal grip is first pulled down so it locks in on opposing left and right side ball-detent locks. When locked, there is a small amount of wobble between grip and frame, but I found this unnoticeable in rapid fire. The grip angle when deployed makes the IC380 a fairly instinctive pointer. The open-front, rectangular, sheet metal grip won’t set the standard for shooter comfort, but it won’t deter its owner from range practice either since the .380 ACP’s recoil is mild. The grip actually provides for better control than a lot of subcompact 9mm guns, simply because there’s enough grip surface for your hand to get a good purchase despite the smooth sides and rectangular shape. The edges of the grip’s open front actually help anchor the pistol in your grasp while shooting. When it comes time to put the IC380 back into stealth mode, all you do is push in the spring-loaded locking balls while folding the grip forward.
The small front sight is milled from the same block of aluminum as the barrel block. It can’t be adjusted but also can’t fall off or get knocked out of alignment. The front hinged barrel block has a raised central rail along the bottom with two shallow cuts in it that mate with a slot and matching steel recoil lugs in the frame. This ensures the barrel stays in alignment with the frame even if the hinge wears. The barrel locks closed at the breech with a heavily sprung sliding latch along the top of the pistol (or side of the phone in this case). The latch is grooved to provide a grip surface and slotted down the center to form the pistol’s rear sight. It is made of a very strong steel alloy and mounted within the pistol’s steel core. You can’t accidentally open it and it can’t be broken out of its slot.
The IC380 is loaded and unloaded by drawing back the latch/rear sight, which allows the spring-loaded barrel block to pop up, exposing the chambers. Extraction is manual via a rectangular sliding button on the left side of the barrel block. Both cartridges are lifted ¼ inch from the chambers (just enough to pluck out with your fingers) by pressing down on the dual-legged extractor button while simultaneously drawing it to the rear. The extractor button retracts automatically when released, allowing for insertion of new cartridges. Once loaded, the barrel block is closed and automatically locks in place under the latch/rearsight. When the barrel block is opened, the pistol automatically resets to fire the top barrel first. The second pull of the trigger fires the bottom barrel.
The IC380 is double action only with a smooth 7/16-inch-long trigger pull that breaks at the end of the pull with no apparent overtravel. As a result of its design, the trigger pull of the upper barrel is heavier than that of the bottom, 12.5 and 10.5 pounds respectively, though the trigger’s broad shoe makes it feel somewhat lighter. The distance from the front of the trigger shoe to the back of the grip frame is 3.9 inches, which might be a little too long for people with very small hands. For me it worked fine.
As a word of caution, I noticed that I could switch back and forth between barrels by partially depressing the trigger and releasing it. If, for whatever reason, you only partially pull the trigger back instead of drawing it all the way through to fire, you’ll find you have switched barrels the next time you pull the trigger. This could leave you in an awkward spot on that next pull if you really need a bullet to come out and you inadvertently switched to a barrel you already fired. You would need to pull the trigger again to get back to the barrel you accidentally skipped.
Contrary to what I’d seen on the company’s many videos, the online manual stated that the pistol can discharge if dropped. If true, that would be a serious flaw considering how often I drop my cell phone, so I asked Kjellberg about it. He explained the “lawyers” insisted on that, though he believes there is no way for the pistol to accidentally discharge because neither striker has a load on it until the trigger is pulled to compress the spring, and it has a firing pin lock to keep the pins from moving forward unless the trigger is pulled. Since he designed it, I’ll take his word.

THE IC380 IS not a target pistol, nor is it what the old-timers used to call a “belly gun.” The pistol’s barrels aren’t specifically regulated to have matching points of impact, but they aren’t that far apart and five-shot groups for either averaged just under 3 inches extreme spread at 7 yards fired rested from the bench. I noted that both the top and bottom barrel consistently favored the left by 1.25 inches, but it is tough to say if that was the sights or the shooter when you’re dealing with a fairly stiff trigger pull.
The top barrel shot about 2.5 inches above the point of aim, and the bottom barrel 1.5 inches below point of aim. The centers of top and bottom barrel groups were separated by about 4 inches on average. When I combined the top and bottom group, I got overall group spreads between 5 and 7.5 inches. In a worst case scenario where one might have to shoot precisely to save the life of a loved one held hostage, the pistol is accurate enough, but I have doubts about my ability to recall each barrel’s point of impact under stress. However, delivering two panicked, close-range shots into an attacker’s torso in less than a quarter-second is something I’m confident I could do with the IC380.

The most accurate and highest velocity ammunition tested was Speer Duty Ammunition 90-grain Gold Dot hollowpoints averaging 949 feet per second. Five shots from the upper barrel grouped in 2.11 inches and 3.11 inches from the bottom. Hornady 90-grain XTP hollowpoints were close behind. Velocity was 895 fps and the same test produced a 3.08-inch group from the top and 3.59-inch group from the bottom. Winchester Super X 85-grain Silvertip hollowpoints moved at 873 fps and grouped 3.51 inches from the top and 3.97 inches from the bottom.
In rapid double-tap drills, I found my shots more tightly clustered in the silhouette’s center mass when I started with the bottom barrel. When I started with the top barrel, my shots would curiously cluster in two distinct groups, one low and left and the other high and right. I’m no physicist, but this may be related to the bottom barrel being closer to my hand. The gun doesn’t have much muzzle flip to begin with, but that bottom barrel may have just a little bit less than the top. That could cause the pistol to have less rise before the second (top) barrel is fired, resulting in tighter grouping of my shots. If I carried this, I’d set the bottom striker to go first.
Ideal Conceal is in the process of working with a respected laser supplier to add a laser aiming option to the pistol soon. Expect that to add $100 to $125 to the retail price of the standard pistol. The button on each side in front of the trigger is where the laser control will be so it can be easily, and ambidextrously, activated with the trigger finger.

The pistol is fairly quick to deploy from the pocket and a specially designed skeletonized belt clip holster will be available soon. It resembles a normal smartphone holster. The pistol’s grip can be opened up to fire while it is mounted in the holster on the belt so as to have it in a ready position in times of expected danger. The holster also allows for the pistol to be fired while sheathed, just in case it’s pulled off the belt and stays on the gun during the draw.
Kjellberg is refreshingly transparent about his pistol’s development, which he holds both design and utility patents for. It’s smartly designed and shows quality workmanship. He proceeded slowly and was able to incorporate improvements to his design along the way based on customer feedback. There’s a good chance the smartphones of 2028 will look a lot different from today’s. But even when smartphones eventually change in appearance and size, the IC380 still won’t look like a gun, and that’s the whole point.

As of this writing, the company is producing 100 guns a month, all here in America. Shipments to customers go out in the order they are received. Ideal Conceal is its own distributor, and those wishing to order a pistol can select a dealer from the 500 listed on the company website, idealconceal.com, or by calling (888) 409-4867.

Story and Photos by Frank Jardim

Here’s another perspective from Youtuber Tactical_SHT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYElIDBQJU

Pocket Pistol

Top 5 Pocket Pistols for Concealed Carry

Looking to carry a pocket pistol? You need to check out these guns.
A lot can be said for a gun that is concealable enough to pocket carry and go largely unnoticed. Most of the pistols on this list are very small, you wouldn’t be able to see them even if you knew where to look.

As far as stopping power, for this size, you have to have the mindset that having something is better than nothing. However, this “something” still offer lot of firepower but not a mini-cannon. If you’re not into small guns, these probably won’t do it for you. But if you’re the last boy scout then these are pretty cool as a backup to the backup. (Be Prepare)
Here’s our list for top 5 pocket pistols for concealed carry:

 

  1. Smith and Wesson .380 Bodyguard
    Let’s begin with the best selling pocket carry pistols out there. Smith and Wesson is the big player here. They really did it right when they made this weapon. All people love this gun. It’s so small it can literally go anywhere totally unnoticed in a pocket.
    This is perfect to carry when packing light.

  1. Glock 42
    Glock is synonymous with quality, reliability, and great shooting handguns and its not just for law enforcement. With that in mind comes the Glock 42. It’s flat out the pocket carry self defense pistol of choice for many Americans. Many people love the stopping power of a .308, and it holds six plus one. The slide locks back after the last shot is fired as well. At less than an inch wide but six inches long, it’s not too different from most mobile devices these days, in terms of concealability.

  1. Smith and Wesson BodyGuard 38 Revolver
    You can call this pocket carry gun one of the most reliable subcompact weapons out there. At only a five shot, it does offer slightly more punch in the 38 special round. The ease of use is that easy. As a such a subcompact revolver, this is a straight self-defense close-range weapon.
    It’s a Smith and Wesson. The brand speaks for itself.

  1. Sig Sauer P238
    If you’re a 1911 fan but need one in a compact size, this is it. Coming in as one of the overall smaller guns on the list, the P238 also carries seven plus one. Following the trend, it’s also another .380. At only five and half inches in overall length, this would look like a mid-sized smartphone while holstered in your pocket.

SCCY CPX
Gotta love this gun for its incredible low price of just over $300 and also chambered in a 9mm, the CPX-1 or the CPX-2 are both great options. Seeing as both of these weapons are chambered in 9mm, this is a plus for EDC. SCCY also offers a lifetime warranty on their guns. At just over five and half inches long and 15 ounces, it’s easy to forget this is in your pocket.

If you are in the market for a new carry pistol so small it fits in your pocket, choosing any of the five above would make you very happy. If you are still looking for more of a punch, you may have to seek out something bigger. With smaller sizes come smaller chambers; that’s the facts in the gun world. So remember, in an emergency, having an equalizer is always better than nothing.
What pocket pistols do you favor?

Glock 43 vs Shield

Most people always presume that small carry guns like M&P Shield and Glock 43 are useless when M&P9 or Glock 17 can be concealed under their cargo pants or a huge flannel shirt.

Which is a 9mm Better Carry?
A Glock 43 or a S&W Shield 2.0?
They’re both small, single stack, lightweight, polymer and considered the self-defense premier 9mm for the concealed carrier. Here are some of their plus features.
S&W Shield 2.0

  • S&W Shield is a 7 plus 1
  • comes with a 8 plus 1 mag
  • has external safety
  • Novex sights low profile, better than Glock
  • Costs less than Glock (-$50)
  • Tacky grip


Glock 43

  • More velocity
  • smaller lighter gun
  • mag release is better

What do you think?, which would you go with?

Sources: TFB Youtube, James Reeves

Colt 1849 Pocket Pistol

Uberti’s version of Colt’s percussion .31-caliber Model 1849 a ‘dandy little gun.’

Looking back along the line of the original Colts, the Model 1849 Pocket Revolvers have quite a history. Sam Colt had produced some very historic revolvers beginning in 1836.
The Colt Patterson revolver was a five shot with the folding trigger and a pair of those are said to have been carried by Kit Carson, probably after 1840.
Next came the Colt Walker revolver, which was quite an improvement but that big .44 is huge.

The Walker was followed by the Colt Dragoon series, also .44s but with a shorter cylinder and barrel than the Walker model. What this led to was a need to introduce a small revolver for personal defense.
That is when the .31 Baby Dragoon came in, designed in late 1847.
The .31-caliber Baby Dragoon had the square-backed trigger guard that was like the trigger guard on the Colt Walker and the first issue of the Dragoon, giving it a “look” that makes it stand out among other Colt pocket models.
One little item that was missing was the loading lever under the barrel and the Baby Dragoon had to be taken apart to be loaded.
Another pocket revolver should be mentioned as we briefly review the old Colts, and that is a version of the Baby Dragoon that was ordered with a rounded trigger guard by the Wells Fargo company.
We refer to that today as the Wells Fargo Model, although it is rather doubtful that Colt ever gave it such a name. But in 1849 those pocket revolvers were updated and improved by adding the loading lever.
That loading lever is, basically, the only difference between the Wells Fargo Models and the 1849
guns. There were, however, some other options and the original 1849 revolvers were made with barrels from 3 to 6 inches in length.
To say the Pocket Revolver was a success would be putting it mildly. They represented the first firm footing for Colt, and prior to their introduction, the company had trouble staying in business. Over 300,000 of these guns were made before production ended, along with the end of the percussion era, in 1873.
One example of the acceptance of the Pocket Revolvers is found with the Baltimore Police Department, which was the first in the country to issue guns to their officers. The guns they issued were Colt Model 1849s.

TODAY’S COPY OF the 1849 Pocket Revolver, made by Uberti (uberti-usa.com), is really a dandy little gun. To give you a good overall description of this revolver, let me begin by saying it weighs just 1½ pounds, or 24 ounces.
With the 4-inch barrel, this gun has an overall length of about 9¾ inches. It isn’t a large revolver at all. Like other Colt-style percussion revolvers, this 1849 copy has the rear sight as a shallow notch in the top of the hammer.
There is another notch at the bottom of the striking face of the hammer and that notch engages a small pin in between the cylinder’s chambers, or nipples, that will keep the cylinder from rotating when the hammer is lowered over that pin.
Those pins make it possible to carry the gun fully loaded and capped with the hammer lowered between chambers or caps. Other Colt style revolvers that I’m familiar with have those “safety pins” between each of the chambers and, at first, I thought they were simply missing from this 1849 Model. However, there is one “safety pin” between two of the chambers on this gun’s cylinder.
Before the revolver should be fired there is a short ritual to be taken. That simply involves taking the barrel off so the cylinder can be removed from the base pin.
With the cylinder removed you can see rather large threads around the base pin. Those threads are to be filled with grease, which will enable the revolver to keep working when the shooting is going on. Without that grease, the cylinder will quickly become very hard to turn because of fouling. On this gun, those threads were immediately covered with October Country’s Bumblin’ Bear Grease.
Then, with the gun put back together, the first steps in loading can be done. What I mean by “the first steps” really means putting a cap on each of the nipples and “snapping” them while the barrel is close to a leaf or blade of grass. Snapping the caps will clear any oils out of the nipples and having the barrel close to the leaf or grass simply lets you see if the nipple is clear or not. If the leaf doesn’t move, do it again.
Mike Shooting the Pocket Colt 1849
FOR MY FIRST shots, each chamber was loaded with 9 grains, using 3F powder. Ramming the balls into the chambers with the rather tiny loading lever was easier than I expected. After all of the balls were seated over the powder in the chambers, I used Bumblin’ Bear Grease to cover the bullets. That is done mainly to prevent “chain fires,” when more than just one chamber gets detonated.
Also, never shoot a percussion revolver with loaded chambers but no percussion caps on the nipples. The percussion caps “seal” those loaded chambers from the back. A chain fire with a revolver usually doesn’t do any damage but it can be exciting.
I took a kneeling position about 10 yards from the target.
-The first shot, while I was holding at about the bottom of the X ring, hit the black high at just about 12 o’clock.
-My second shot doubled the first shot.
-The third shot just opened the existing double bullet hole a little more.
-Then the fourth shot went into the same tight group.
Finally, the last shot went just a fraction of an inch higher and that was the only shot on the target to break into the white.
Results from Colt1849
The balls I was using were 0 buckshot from Ballistic Products
(ballisticproducts.com). An 8-pound jar holds 1,120, more than enough to keep me shooting for a long time.
Their 0 buckshot balls are .320 inch in diameter and they look like they are perfectly round. In addition to that, the buckshot balls do not have sprues, so no “indexing” of the ball is necessary when loading.
Using the buckshot is much easier than using cast bullets because no thought about the “direction” of the ball is needed; just set it on the mouth of the chamber and ram it down to the powder.
Ballistic Products also makes a 0000-size buckshot and that is a .380-inch ball, just about right for those .36 Navy revolvers.
Another target was shot at, and this time the distance was a full 50 feet.
The load was about the same, although this time the sights were held at 6 o’clock on the bottom of the black. That was done to see if a higher score could be had by bringing the group closer to the center of the target.
With these five shots, the group stayed at the top of the black and the only real difference was that the group wasn’t quite as tight as the first.
Now for some notes about ballistics. Over the 9 grains of powder went the 0 buckshot balls from Ballistic Products.
That’s the load I was able to test fire over my chronograph in order to see what it was really doing.
Five shots were fired over the chronograph and those were recorded going as slow as 472 feet per second and as fast as 530 fps. Those averaged a whopping 496 fps but for the sake of easy math, let’s just call it 500 fps.
Those .320-inch round balls weigh in at just 50 grains. So, the 50-grain bullet moving at 500 feet per second carries an energy of just under 28 foot-pounds.
That’s just over a third of what a .22 Short carries with its 29-grain bullet moving at about twice the speed. This should tell you if you’re looking for power, you might look someplace else.

JUST IN CASE YOU can’t already tell, I really like this little gun. It’s a fun gun. Some of that fun might be seen in a soda-pop can hanging on a string with several .31-caliber bullet holes through it. And as a fun gun, it is quite practical. The most expensive part of shooting this revolver, shot for shot, is the price of the percussion caps. That makes this little five-shot rather practical and inexpensive to shoot, and this one will probably be shot quite a bit. 

Story and Photos by Mike Nesbitt

Is the Lifecard Credit Card pistol worth having?

There are some talk among CCW about having a backup to their primary handguns.
But how many actually have a backup to their primary handgun?
I know most are not LEO’s, but packing more heat is always better than not having one at all.
Trail Blazer Firearms from Ashville, NC sells a tiny single-shot .22 LR pistol that is the size no bigger than a stack of credit cards. When unfold the handle chamber can house 5 22 rounds.
YouTuber Big Daddy Hoffman 1911 had a chance to try out the LifeCard Credit Card Pistol. It’s small enough to fit inside the change pocket of your jeans.
This little thing unfolds into a single-shot pistol.

Big high thumbs up in the concealment catagory.
You probably won’t win many gunfights but as a backup to your primary backup (ankle gun), guess its better than nothing. Sort of like a last ditch Jame Bond 007 effort, this little pistol might be useful for that purpose.
With a price tag of $399, is this just another fad or is it something useful to have? Would you get one?

Is this .25 ACP Mouse Gun enough for Personal Defense?

These days most concealed carriers refer to smaller handguns less than a .45 caliber as “mouse guns.” We’re talking about the Browning .25 ACP.
Yes, its is considered an antique self-defense gun from the early 20th century, some would say it was a fad that never faded.
Most people that do have these .25’s are collectors and a small minority that actually have this as a backup.(ankle or throwaway guns)
But is it a reliable self-defense gun?
Nowadays thanks to smart gun folks have put this caliber to the test against gel. The ideal penetration is “twelve inches” according to FBI protocol.
Here’s Youtuber mark3smle tackling this question of whether or not the .25 ACP is reliable for self-defense.

Yes this little piece is the ideal size for concealed and lightweight, but not quite the caliber to have to stop someone in its track.
This is a last resort to have as a backup.
What do you all think?

Sources: mark3smle Youtube