The Sig P365 and the Hellcat pistols are considered to be two of the most popular micro 9mm (pocket pistols) out on the market. Youtuber Ian and Karl of In Range demonstrates this comparison.
The purpose of this is to see and feel how both of these guns shoot.
They are looking at it from a performance level but nothing too technical
and this is not a valid way to test a handgun. This is just heresy from two people with differing skill level.
The only differences between the two pistol is that the Hellcat has a Red Dot attached for sighting. If this is better to have than iron sights, that is to be debated at another time.
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This test involves two targets which must be hit twice per target at the 10 yards and 15 yards. This is a time event which has the shooter holding their pistols at the low ready position and commence firing at the sound of the buzz. There is no time from the 25 yard, shooter have 10 rounds to see how many they get on target.
Results 10 Yard
Both shooters average times were faster with the Hellcat.
Hellcat won at the 10 yard close range. At 15 yards the P365 seems to be better without a Red Dot.
Ian is definitely the long range marksman, where Karl is the faster shooter at closer range. Having the red dot seems to be a plus when getting on target.
Both guns run really well. At the 15 yards the P365 won.
Both shooters have a different makeup, one has more aptitude for
precision shooting than the other.
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–Ian prefers the Sig P365 trigger being much cleaner, while the Hellcat trigger was more stiff. The reset may have been better on the P365 than the Hellcat. (both shooters agreed on this)
–Karl prefers the Hellcat, even though its considered a copycat of the P365. Incorporating the Red Dot is a huge plus not only for close range quick target acquisition but if needed to sighting a target 25 yards also helps having. Having an extra round may be just a cool feeling that you have one more round. The grip texturing feels more sticky, so much better than holding the P365.
That’s right coming from Rob Leatham. When it comes to shooting, few are at Rob Leatham’s caliber so when he’s got something to say about shooting, we should pay attention. Or, shouldn’t we? Without questioning Rob’s shooting ability, there has been debates on the different school of thoughts when it comes to “instinctive” shooting to precise shooting, or, accuracy shooting to speed shooting. Is this a myth when it comes to gunfighting? As you can see the list goes on, we have written one piece when the NYPD shooting program came under fire when their officers were missing their shots in actual incidents, when lives counted.
For the normal Joe that conceal carry, how much of this advise would work out on the streets when it really counted. There are other variables that comes into play such as the distances and movement. Circumstances can also dictate whether you’re shooting sighted or unsighted. For example if both people are wrestling for the gun, at this close range there is no need for lining up your sights. Hitting a target while stationary is one thing but while on the move is another skill set.
Which ever side of the fence you stand on, Rob’s statement is sure to perk your interest and opinion on shooting.
Here’s 3 things that Rob talks about to make you a better shooter.
Hold the Gun Really Tight
Point the Gun at the Target
Pull the Trigger w/out Moving
Take a look at the video.
Here’s what they’re all saying about Rob’s shooting method.
Earlier we mentioned shooting while on the move. Maybe, we’re getting off course here and shouldn’t compare two different things. Stationary shooting vs shooting on the move. Anyways, here’s Gabe White a highly proficient shooter that shoots at a Master USPSA level. Its just amazing to see a guy with some mad skill, yes, it would take a lot of work to be at his level. But one thing about this, Gabe does admit to using his front sight while acquiring the target.
Ok, back to Rob.
Video Transcription on Rob Leatham
[Rob Leatham] An instructor comes in, and the first thing they tell you is, “Focus on the sights, squeeze the trigger, pin the trigger to the rear, ONLY release the trigger, and try to relax. It’s all Bull[BLEEP]. As a rule, the first thing you should learn is to pull the trigger without moving the gun. You don’t even need to load the gun, you don’t need a target. You need to be able to fire the gun without altering the attitude, and the direction the gun’s pointed. Until you can do that, aiming is meaningless. Think about it, if you’re shooting a shot, you’re focused on that front sight, you’re looking at that front sight, You’re lookin’, lookin’, lookin’, you say “I’m gonna shoot…NOW.” And you jerk the gun six inches low, eight inches low, it didn’t matter if you aimed to begin with! So it’s pointless to focus on aiming until fire control is in place.
Ok, so the first thing I teach a new shooter is always the same thing: First off it’s safety, keep the gun pointed the right way, all that kinda crap. At that point, we turn into ‘Now listen, what I need you to do is hold the gun firmly’ and I put their hands on the gun, I show ’em how I want ’em to grip it, I don’t even need ’em to bring it up to eye level. I tell ’em ‘hold the gun right there, cycle gun, now pull the trigger’. Click. Nothin’, move. Click, nothin’ moves. Click, nothin’ moves. ‘Cuz they’re not aiming, so they don’t care about aiming. So you’re not letting the process of aiming affect their shooting as they’re pulling the trigger.
Then it’s “Ok, now extend the gun, point the gun at the target, don’t care about the sights yet, and pull the trigger. Click. Click, click.” So now we’re gonna shoot some shots, and I don’t care where you hit, we’re gonna shoot some shots now, live fire. And almost immediately, guy will start shooting, and I’ll see him aim, aim, aim, and I’ll say “Stop. You’re aiming. I don’t need you aiming, you’re gonna hit the target at three or four or five yards without aiming, so don’t worry about it. You can’t miss from lack of aiming at that distance. You’ll miss by moving the gun out of alignment by jerking, flinching, pushing, pulling. And it’s not ‘jerking the trigger’ either, I hate it when people blame everything on not seeing the ffff– the sight. And jerking the trigger. To shoot fast you’re gonna jerk the trigger, so learn how to jerk the trigger without moving the gun! It’s that simple! It’s just not easy to do.
So fundamentally if you’re trying to teach somebody that; this is one of Springfield’s new OSPs, the gun I shot at the Nationals; so the guy that does this motion right here, sights, everything looks good, and then they say ‘I’m gonna shoot NOW’, It won’t matter if te dot was where I wanted it or not. Because I moved it eight or ten or twelve inches when I moved it. So what I need the guy to do is forget about aiming, point the gun out at the target, and do this. Learn how to do this motion right here. Ok? So now even though I’m poorly aimed, the shot’s going to go where it was directed. And NOW aiming will matter.
So this is what it looks like live-fire. So you put it on here, you do everything right, you put the dot on the target, and you pull the trigger. Pull the trigger, pull the trigger, pull the trigger. Ok? At that point, I’m not trying to see a perfect clear dot. In this case, it’s a dot, not ironsights. I’m not trying to make the dot motionless. I’m not trying to fixate all my conscious thought on that aiming point. It’s about thirty percent on the visual, and the rest of it is all on feeling the trigger. ‘Cuz if I can move the trigger without moving the gun, I’m gonna have a good shot.
Now, shooting’s really simple, guys. It’s not necessarily easy, but there’s only three things that you have to do.
Hold the gun really tight, okay, don’t try to relax, hold the gun tight.
Point the gun at the target where you want to hit it.
And pull the trigger as fast as you can without moving.
That’s it. That’s all the secrets to shooting. And if you do it right, while it’s not necessarily easy, it is very simple.
I’m holding the gun as tight as I can, locking the gun, the sight’s in the target, pull the trigger, pull the trigger, pull the trigger, like that. Ok? And I just keep pulling the trigger.
Now you come look at the target.
[Cameraman] You’re fairly confident that this is gonna look like it’s supposed to?
[Rob] Well, I mean, it’s gonna be– the dot moved about this much when I was shooting. So if you look at the target, where are the shots gonna be? In that area. Now I could shoot it faster, and I could also shoot it more accurately, but the first thing isn’t learning this precision slow-fire crap. The hardest thing to do is to take somebody, who you forced them to focus on slow-fire and precision, and say ‘now just do it fast’. Because you don’t do the same things for precision that you do– The concept is, and it’s fault, it’s false– is that you do the same thing shooting faster that you do shooting accurately. It’s not true. The process of pulling the trigger is different when you’re shooting fast than when you’re shooting accurately. Now, can I pull the trigger slow? Yeah, ‘course I can. But the process is based on the ability to hold the gun, so the most important part is not aiming, it is pulling the trigger without moving the gun, it has little to do with the trigger, it has more to do with gripping and how you hold the gun and how motionless you can make the gun.
Alright, so I’m Rob Leatham from Springfield Armory, and thanks for watching Funker Tactical.
by J Hines
Source: Funker Tactical Youtube, Rob Leatham and Gabe White
A 20th Century Pocket Gun that was ahead of its Time
At the beginning of the 20th century semi-automatic magazine fed pistols were a novel concept. However, this era gave us the iconic M1911 and the German Luger just to name a few. There were many others that popped up into the scene but were left behind as time went by. One pistol that was forgotten but had a really good design was the Remington Model 51 which was developed during the prohibition era of the United States.
At this time John Browning may have been the most well known firearms designer. But, a lesser known John Pederson, who in his own right should have had the same notoriety. John Pederson had collaboratively worked on many successful guns with different designers (including J Browning), his most successful is the Remington Model 51 that reached full production level.
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Pederson designed the Model 51 in 1917 as a pocket gun which at the time the market was dominated by the cheaper and reliable revolvers. The pistol was somewhat successful, it did not dominate the market.
The U.S. military did take a look at the Model 51 as a possible combat handgun before WWII. From a production level perspective. The more cheaper and reliable direct blow-back design was the order of the day. The Model 51 production eventually wound down.
Remington Model 51 Features
The Model 51 was design as a pocket pistol. The exterior is sleek and smooth. -The sights were filed down to be snag free when drawn from the user’s pocket.
-Another fine feature is the “safety,” which was created from the entire back strap of the pistol, held in the hand comfortably with no sharp edges. When depressed, it lines up smoothly with the rear edges of the grip.
-The grip uses a smooth single stack magazine like the M1911.
-The original Model 51 houses 7 rounds of .380ACP cartridge and the magazine release the same as the M1911.
Due to the Model 51 sleek design, the revolvers were no match from a concealability stand point.
Many people like the looks of the Model 51 but gunsmithers will appreciate the internals design of the gun. The design uses a fixed barrel design vs a barrel-base short-stroke recoil system of the time. The breach itself tilts to impart momentum so the slide can effortlessly carry through the operating cycle.
Disassembly – Breaking down the Model 51 is really different and can be looked at as a little complex to the newbies. Here are the steps from N Leghorn of TruthAboutGuns:
-Remove a crossbar pin to unlock the barrel.
-The user then grips the end of the barrel and pulls it forward to unlock the mechanism and remove the slide.
-From there, the internal components can be removed by sliding it back and tilting it out, which allows the firing pin and the spring to fall free.
So here’s why gunsmiths will appreciate the internal designs that was created for better concealability:
The barrel doesn’t tilt, so there’s no need for a separate guide rod for the return spring. In the operating cycle most semi-automatic pistols of the era used an under-over placement for the return spring that provided the forward pressure to chamber the next round. This increases the height of the handgun (a bigger pistol), and makes it a little harder to conceal in a pocket or holster.
With the recoil spring around the barrel the gun could be much thinner with an extremely low bore axis…an edge over the competition. A huge advantage for concealed carry.
Another advantage is the felt recoil. The original Model 51 lower bore axis reduces felt recoil, makes it softer shooting and allowing for quicker rapid shots.
Not many gun enthusiasts or collectors had the chance to run this gun, so we can’t say what the majority would say. This perspective and experiences is from N Leghorn when he took this original Model 51 out on the range. “The Model 51 is chambered in the .380 ACP cartridge which was considered more powerful than the .32 ACP – which was the pocket gun competition at the time.
The recoil is incredibly tame. It feels like you’re shooting a rimfire cartridge than the centerfire .380 ACP.
There’s a tiny bit of take-up in the trigger. After that, the break is crisp and clean. Once cycled, a short reset gets you back in firing condition. Something noticeable in this design: there’s a tactile reset. You feel and hear a small “click” when the trigger is back in firing position. That removes all doubt about whether you need to release the trigger any further and discourages “short stroking” (where the shooter will try to pull the trigger again without fully resetting the gun)”. Accuracy
This shooter claims the 103 year old pistol runs like a charm and was able to put a 2 inch groupings at 15 yards. Which is efficient for personal defense.
Another writer/gun enthusiasts (E. Buffaloe) claimed: “Very few guns feel so much like an extension of the hand as does the Remington 51. W.H. B. Smith says: “With the sole exception of the Luger, and the new German Walther P38, the Walther PPK, Sauer-38 and Mauser HSc (all foreign developments) this Remington 51 is probably the best-balanced, most-instinctive-pointing pistol ever made.”
The Remington Model 51 may have been lost through the times, but Remington did release a remake design of this awesome pistol a while back, thanks to the efforts of a couple of its employees. Here are the good points of this awesome pocket gun which is ahead of its time.
Accuracy – 4 Star
For a pocket pistol with tiny sights the gun isn’t half bad. Two inches at 15 yards is nothing to sneeze at in the compact handgun world, even among modern firearms. Functionality – 5 Star
Runs every single time. The action is smooth and the recoil is light.
Here’s what some are saying about this awesome pocket gun: PeterK says:
Such a cool piece of engineering. I can see why JMB thought so highly of Pederson. Andrew Lias says:
A gun on my bucket list. I have 2 savage 1907s that need a friend. I hope parts are easier to find.
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Tom in Oregon says:
Sweet piece of nostalgia. Also on my “need to have if the price is right” list. jwm says:
It looks remarkably like a hammerless Makarov. From that era I judge pocket pistols when compared to the Colt 1903/08. Michael Case says:
One of the classics, I would love to add this to my collection if I can find a descent one. Charles Gallo says:
I have a well functioning M51 ! My fathers daily carry ! We head to the range with a 357 SnW 19 too and my guns I just keep loading for 20 minutes straight while pops shot them , I’ll treasure my M 51 the memories at the range with dad ! RIP 5/27/19 Korean Veteran Air Force.
Review by J Hines and Photos from Img2.cgtrader.com/ Sources from E Buffaloe, N Leghorn, Wikipedia
Full Single-Shot Family Includes Range of Adult, Youth & Survival Models, Features Like Ventilated Rib Barrels and Turkish Walnut/Synthetic Stock Options
Article by Ron Ballanti Photos from Dickenson Arms
Dickinson Arms has introduced a new-for-2020 family of single-shot shotguns that combines classic good looks, superior craftsmanship, excellent shooting performance and remarkable value. Dickinson’s new Ranger Series includes models designed for the shooting needs of adults and youth, as well as a short-barreled Survival model — at retail prices starting as low as $144 MSRP.
“This is an excellent first shotgun for those getting into the sport, as well as for more experienced shooters looking to add something new and unique to their collections,” said Tim Bailey of Dickinson Arms. “In the Dickinson tradition, this new Ranger Series has a look and feel of quality, despite the fact that it is so affordable. It may be somebody’s first shotgun, but they will own it and treasure it for years to come, because it is built to last and it’s fun and easy to shoot,” added Bailey.
The standard Dickinson Ranger features a simple and reliable break open action for easy loading and operation, and comes with a 28-inch barrel in 12-GA. 20-GA., 28-GA. and .410 bore. The Ranger’s attractive Satin Silver receiver is complimented by a choice of available checked Turkish Walnut or
rugged black synthetic stock. Both versions offer a rubber butt plate for comfortable shooting and a ventilated rib for better sighting and accuracy. The Dickinson Ranger comes with a fixed Modified choke for 12-, 20- and 28-GA. models, with a fixed Full choke on the .410 bore.
New Dickinson Ranger Series Shotguns
Younger shooters will love the Dickinson Ranger Youth Model available in 12-GA., 20-GA., and .410 bore with a 24-inch barrel. Designed to be easy to carry and handle, Dickinson’s Ranger Youth shotgun is a great way to bring new people into the sport. Available with a walnut stock and fore-end and boasting the same attractive Silver Satin receiver, this shotgun has an “Old West” appearance that will appeal to shooters young and old.
Dickinson will also offer a Ranger Survival Model with a rugged black synthetic stock and 18.5-inch barrel. This model will be offered in 12-GA. 20-GA. and .410 bore and will include a durable nylon carrying case with shoulder strap as standard equipment.
To learn more about the new Single Shot Ranger Series Shotguns from Dickinson Arms — or the company’s complete line of quality shotguns for hunting, sport shooting and tactical use — find the Dickinson Arms dealer nearest you. You can also reach Dickinson by calling (805) 978-8565 or visiting the company’s website at www.dickinsonarms.com.
More bang for the buck. In this AR era, you can find them all over the internet and local gun stores. For those looking to get a quality AR but a limited in their spending, can you find an AR under $500? You definitely can, here are some of those AR-15 under $500.
ATI-Omni Hybrid – $429
Its a metal/polymer upper and lower, don’t let this steer you away. The AR comes with a fixed position stock and a 30 round mag. One set back is that it doesn’t come with iron sights. This AR functions really well.
Windham Weaponary R16 M4 – $465
This AR features an M4A4-type flat top upper receiver and Picatinny rail gas block to allow for the use of a variety of optics and removable sights. However, it doesn’t come with iron sights. The chrome-lined steel 16-inch barrel has an M4 profile and a removable A4 flash hider. Has a six position stock. This AR is one of the better quality.
May be one of the most accurate out on the market for under $500. Features a 16″ lightweight barrel, a flat top upper receiver, Glacier Guard handguards and a collapsible, six-position Pardus buttstock. Its a perfect AR for the first time owner or just an accurate and affordable plinker.
Delton DT16 – $482
Has a six position stock and is the only one on this list that comes with iron sights. Doesn’t come with the rear sights but the A post at the front.
Anderson AM15 – $485
Optic ready Firearm is chambered in .223/5.56 comes with a 16” Chrome Moly Vanadium Steel M4 contour barrel 1-8 twist , Forged Receivers, A2 Hand Guard, 6 position butt stock, A2 pistol grip, A2 Flash Hider What makes this thing stands out is that is comes with a match grade trigger. This adds much more value than the others on the list.
Aero Precision OEM X15 – $489
This rifle blows the budget, and you have to put your own furniture on it. The whole point of the Aero Precision kit is that it gets the central core of the AR-15 right.
The AR used to be around a thousand, but nowadays, you can get some quality ones for half the price. Let us know which AR that you started with that was affordable.
From concealed-carry class attendee to successful team competition shooter to sole owner of an ammunition company, one woman’s inspiring journey through the firearms world.
STORY BY PAUL PAWELA • PHOTOS BY JEN MCCANTS
America is still the greatest country in the world for allowing anyone to make their dreams come true through enough hard work, ambition and a never-ending devotion to their vision.
For instance, consider the historical life of Annie Oakley. The 19th century female trailblazer became America’s sweetheart as one of the greatest shooters of all time. At a time when women were largely confined to home and their family, Oakley generated huge audiences across the country by showcasing her impressive shooting skills, all while overcoming life obstacles.
She would routinely outshoot all her male competitors during shooting demonstrations or competitions. Oakley was so popular that she eventually became one of the main attractions in “Buffalo Bill” Cody’s Wild West Traveling Show, and was so impressive with her shooting skills that famed Indian Chief Sitting Bull nicknamed her “Watanya Cicilla,” which means little sure shot.
In truth, Oakley was a feminist way ahead of her time. She urged other women to participate in sports, especially the shooting sports, which were dominated by men. During the Spanish American War, Oakley volunteered her services by offering to personally organize and train 50 female sharpshooters to serve in the war, but her offer was rejected because women were not allowed to serve in combat roles.
Later on, Oakley and her husband, Frank Butler, would work for the Union Metallic Cartridge Company, a major bullet manufacturer of that time. The ammo company sponsored Oakley and Butler to give shooting exhibitions across the country. When World War I broke out, Oakley once more offered shooting lessons for American soldiers but was denied by the government. So she took matters into her own hands and traveled the country giving shooting lessons to soldiers anyway. Oakley simply was not afraid to show off her hard-earned shooting skills and she became a symbol of the American female spirit at a time when most women were limited to careers as domestic workers, teachers or housewives.
Due to abuse incidents she suffered early in her life, Oakley nursed a simple dream: “I would like to see every woman know how to handle guns as naturally as they know how to handle babies.”
FAST FORWARD SOME 94 years into the future, where another woman is breaking down barriers and stereotypes as the sole owner and operator of an ammunition company.
For dedicated readers of American Shooting Journal, you might remember seeing Deb Sullivan in the pages of the November 2018 issue for an article on “Wo Man Camp” by Tara Dixon Engel. She was also featured in the July 2019 edition as the only woman in a 16-man T.A.P.S. class taught by ex-Delta Force operator Pat McNamara. Sullivan distinguished herself in that class by being in the top three shooters, and she might have finished even higher, were it not for technical issues with her rifle.
Indeed, the only other shooter to really best her was an officer in charge of a Special Forces battalion. Deb Sullivan’s story is that of a single mother of three managing a horse ranch and courageously stepping into the firearms industry. Sullivan did not grow up around firearms, and guns were never a topic discussed in her family. Her father was an officer in the Army when she was a very young child, but she had no recollection of his service, just the memory of his stories. She was inspired that he was on a rifle team, and reportedly was a very good shot.
Late in 2014, Sullivan noticed a newspaper advertisement for a concealed-carry class held at a local gun shop/range. There had been several break-ins in and around her neighborhood, so she worked up the nerve to attend her first concealed weapons license class. Surprisingly, Sullivan turned out to be a shooting savant, despite never so much as holding a gun!
While waiting for her CCW license to arrive, she felt driven to take more
lessons and to become the most proficient shooter she could possibly be.
To achieve that goal, Sullivan began competing in GSSF, or Glock Sport
Shooting Foundation, competitions.
Her group, which was an all-female team, dominated the competition. The team often took first place in the ladies’ division, and sometimes took first and
second in overall team competition. The ladies were eventually sponsored by T1 Ammunition because that was the ammo the women preferred, due to its low recoil which was an asset in a competition setting. T1 Ammunition would later become a major part of Deb Sullivan’s life.
SULLIVAN’S PASSION BLOSSOMED into a desire to help women become empowered to take their safety seriously and be responsible for themselves. Along with several friends, she started a business that focuses on self-defense and personal protection topics for women. Women Training Females, or WTF, was born to help women learn basic self-defense skills and tactics, including hand-to-hand and ground fighting skills; less lethal skills, such as pepper spray training; and varying levels of firearms training, ranging from handguns to pistol-caliber rifles for home defense.
And all of the course curriculum was designed for women by women, and is taught by women. Fueled by a desire that women, young and old alike, take responsibility for their own safety, Sullivan has pursued her own personal growth by seeking out training from the best instructors in the country – those with backgrounds in Delta Force, CIA, law enforcement and more.
Sullivan would also serve as a pillar of strength for a good friend whose
daughter survived an attempted kidnapping by using lethal force, an experience that stays deeply in one’s soul forever.
LIFE COMES FULL circle, as the saying goes, and as one door
closes, another one opens. When the previous owner of T1 Ammunition had enough of the firearms industry and wanted to get out, Sullivan applied her business savvy – learned from owning and operating a horse farm by herself – in order to make T1’s owner “an offer he could not refuse.”
Like any endeavor, running an ammunition company is not easy and success comes through hard work, dedication and sheer force of will. From the very start, Sullivan became a one-woman show, not only buying all the component parts to make the ammo, but working on the machines that produced it, inspecting each and every round produced, and packaging/shipping all orders herself. DEAD FOOT ARMS
She routinely put in 12-hour days at T1 and then added four more when she went home to do her ranch work. Sullivan took a crash-course in pistol and rifle ballistics and quickly earned an A-plus. Instead of focusing on too many different calibers, she has wisely concentrated on the two most popular calibers that were favorites in her female competition shooting circles: 9mm and 5.56 NATO.
Sullivan’s purchase of T1 earned her some public ridicule from those who thought she would fail miserably in her venture. After all, she had purchased a business whose owners and customers were primarily men. As the only one-woman ammo company in the country, she faced a tireless uphill battle, learning valuable lessons about who she could count on – and
who she couldn’t.
Still determined to push forward with a great deal of fortitude, Sullivan
headed to the 2020 SHOT Show with big dreams and high hopes to see what kind of business she could drum up. The majority of the male consultants she sought advice from gave her gloom and doom input, offering her little encouragement or hope for success.
Sadly, she got a similar response from most of the women in the industry, as well. Following her gut instincts, Sullivan kept a positive attitude and stuck to her guns, literally, as she pressed on in making the company a success.
IT IS SAID God loves people who keep the faith and maintain a nevergive-up attitude, and Deb Sullivan is one of those people. In fact, as of this writing, in one of the nation’s worst pandemics, Sullivan’s T1 Ammo is not only still in business, it is flourishing, and she now has a full-time crew and all the necessary machinery to meet the demands of her ever-increasing customer orders.
Sullivan still makes sure that T1 Ammunition has multiple systems checks for quality and uniformity. Every round is still hand-inspected for defects, fit and finish. T1 is constantly working to improve its products, especially for
women, while maintaining current pistol formulas for competition, as well as ammo with low recoil that can be used for defensive purposes. In the future, Sullivan hopes to add .380 for carry purposes and .38 for those who still prefer revolvers.
It was said about Annie Oakley in her time that there was never a sweeter, gentler, more loving woman, and her endurance and strength in the face of adversity remain something to be admired even today. It is also true that the spirit of Annie Oakley must surely dwell in Deb Sullivan, as those exact words can be said of her! Sullivan is one of those determined and hard-working manufacturers who make America great!
Editor’s note: For more information, go to T1Ammo.com.
Well, this suppressed Ruger 10/22 bullpup rifle will leave you drooling, especially when you see shooting sensation 22 Plinkster getting some trigger time with it.
We sure love our Ruger 10/22 rifles. How can you upgrade your trusty Ruger 10/22 Rifle to a more enjoyable tacticool platform? Why not bullpup stock that .22 rifle? The Aklys Defense ZK-22 Bullpup Stock allows for a quick-shooting short-length package ready for action. What is better is that 22 Plinkster has a suppressor on his bullpup rifle. That would make this quiet shooting rifle perfect for the range and pest control.
If you’re looking for something different for your Ruger 10/22 rifle, you just might be interested in the very cool Aklys Defense ZK-22 Bullpup Stock.
Hey guys, 22Plinkster here! I have the ZK22 Bullpup for the Ruger 10-22 in my hands, let me shoot it a few times, I’ll tell you a little bit more about it!
[gunfire and metalic plinking]
There we go.
Runs pretty good. Now, you guys know by now, I am not this big, tactical guy. Now I will give credit where credit is due: I own one other Bullpup design, and that is the Tavor, but this is actually a bullpup for your 10-22. Well, I’ve been shooting it now for a couple months, and I really, really like it. um, now, there is a lot of engineering that went on in building and designing and making this stock, but it’s pretty much a bullpup stock for your Ruger 10-22.
Now I have several Ruger 10-22s that you guys have seen in videos, I’ve got rugers set up to shoot half-inch groups –well, half-inch to a three-quarter inch groups- at a hundred yards, I’ve got Ruger 10-22s that I use for trick shots with the open sights, with the folding stock, you know; I’ve got Ruger 10-22s with AR-15 stocks on them, so I didn’t want to sacrifice a Ruger 10-22 that I own for this build, so I wanted to get another Ruger 10-22 that I could keep in this configuration, because taking it apart, it does take a little bit of time.
Now, my good friends at Clarksville Guns and Archery had a Ruger 10-22 in stock, and I went up there and got it, and so I wanna thank Clarksville Guns and Archery for the 10-22 that’s inside of here, but there are some legal issues that you also need to know about the ZK-22.
Those legal issues are simply this: You have to have a barrel, a 10-22 barrel, over 18 and one-half inches long to put in here. Now, the standard barrel, which I have in here, is 18 and a half inches long. That way it meets the overall length for this setup. Now, if you have an 18-inch bull-barrel, you cannot put it in this stock without SBR-ing it, because at that point it would not meet overall length, and you will have to SBR it.
So I wanted a suppressor on the end of this setup, but however I couldn’t find a company that made an eighteen-and-a-half-inch barrel that was threaded. I could find anybody and their uncle making them eighteen and eighteen-and-a-quarter, but not eighteen-and-a-half, so Joe was nice enough to thread this standard 10-22 barrel for me where I could put a suppressor, this is my Silencerco Sparrow that you guys have seen in multiple multiple videos, I really like that setup. But it’s a pretty fun setup.
Now the good thing about Bullpups is simply this: All the weight -well, not all the weight, but MOST of the weight- goes to the rear of the firearm, so you can handle it one-handed, and you can get pretty fast with it.
Now, I guess, before we go any further, let me shoot it a few more times. Now, having the stock on here’s not going to make your 10-22 any more accurate or anything like that, because accuracy is in the barrel, and also in the receiver. It just makes it really tactical-looking, and really fun to shoot, so…
[More gunfire and metalic plinks]
Alright. It’s really, really controllable, like most bullpups. Now let’s talk about some of the specs on this stock.
Now this stock looks very similar to a P-90. You do have your front grip here, and of course thumb hole in the side here. Now right here is the safety, I don’t know if you can see that very well, but it does have a flip safety. If it is towards the trigger it is on safe, all the way forward it is on fire, and it does have another safety -internal safety- on the trigger here. This part right here has to be depressed before you’d be able to pull the trigger. So it does have two safeties. Right here on top is your charging handle.
And it is ambi, so you can do it from either side. It does have a top picatinny rail that goes all the way across, and it does accept multiple Ruger magazines. Right now I’m running the BX-25 magazines, and it does– it can use the ten-rounders. You know I think I got a ten-rounder right here in my pocket. So, yeah. Here’s a regular ten-rounder, these are the new ones from Ruger that are clear, and it will snap in there like so. Let’s shoot it a few times.
[Shots and metalic plinks]
So, yeah. Magazine release is right here on the bottom, so you simply press your magazine release and your magazine falls out.
This stock is polymer, so I was speaking with Joe, we’ve had several phone conversations about this stock. This is a hot, hot item. Everybody and their uncle wants one of these. Now, not everybody would be willing to pay two-hundred ninty-nine dollars for this stock, because that’s what they MSRP for, but a lot of people have a Ruger 10-22 or multiple Ruger 10-22s in their closet, and they’re looking at a way that they can modify it. Or you just wanna go out and purchase a Ruger 10-22 and put a ZK22 stock on there, but the stock will cost as much as the rifle. But the reason why this stock is, you know, up there in price range a little bit, is because nothing was spared in making this design. All of this material is top-of-the-line, the best you can get. It’s not going to break, it’s not going to fade, it’s not going to chip or crack or anything like that. It is tough, it is thick, thick stuff It’s a pretty good design, and overall I really enjoy shooting it.
On the sides here, on both sides, there are places where you can mount a picatinny rail. So you can put a flashlight on the side, a laser, a bostaff, ninja stars, grenade launcher, whatever you possibly want or think of to mount on these picatinny rails, you can. So, it makes it I guess a “tactical” setup.
I can see, you know, for instance, you know, people using this for pest control at night, because it is a short package; and like I said previously in the video, the accuracy is in the barrel, it’s not in the length of the rifle or your overall length. So Ruger 10-22s for the most part are fairly accurate, and, you know, you mount a flashlight or a laser, for pest control in the country, you need to get rid of something, this is a great little setup for that.
You’ve seen everything, and I’ve spoken about everything that you can actually see on this rifle, let’s take it apart and show you exactly how this works.
First thing that we need to do is make sure that the firearm is clear and it does not have anything in there, which, this is unloaded. Since this stock is two pieces that clamp together and held together with bolts, you must first remove any optics that you have on top of the ZK22.
Ok, now that the sight is off, take your allen wrench and simply take out the thirteen bolts that are holding this particular stock together.
Alright, now that we have all of the bolts taken out, let’s open it up and I’ll show you what it looks like. It’s a little tight, because I’ve had it together for a while. There you go.
So as you see, you’ve got a trigger bar that runs all the way across here, that is attached to a small wheel that is inserted to your trigger. Now this is only touching the face of your trigger, so if you have a match-trigger already in your 10-22, a flatface trigger, or a factory trigger, doesn’t matter. So if you three of Volquartsen in here, in your regular 10-22, and you wanted to use your Volquartsen in here, it will work. It will work fine. And right here, you have your charging handle that lays on top here, and it’s a really really good design.
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So you basically just insert it, and you put everything together, like I said it only takes about thirty minutes to assemble, but I will give you this word of caution: If you are one of these kinda guys that wants to have their firearm spotless at every given time, this may not be the best setup for you, because I’m– I look at a firearm as a tool. I do not clean it every single time I use it. Now, every once in a while when it starts malfunctioning –now this is, I’m talking about rimfire, now– when it starts malfunctioning, I will clean everything, run a bore snake through it, and be good to go. But usually I shoot firearms ’till they start malfunctioning.
But if you like guns spotless, this may not be the best setup for you, because it does take fifteen to twenty minutes to assemble and disassemble. You know, it is what it is. I think this is a great design. This is actually the first time I’ve taken it apart after the first time I put it together two weeks ago. I took it apart a couple of times just to familiarize myself with it, but I have not had it apart in a couple of months, it’s a great design, it works really well, and so, let me get this camera turned around, and I’ll give you my final thoughts on it.
Okay! It runs great. My final thoughts on the ZK-22 by Aklys Defense: I like it. And I like that they use the Ruger 10-22 as the ‘mother gun’ for this setup. The Ruger 10-22 has sold millions and millions of rifles down through the years, and in my opinion, it is probably the greatest 22 longrifle rifle that is semi-automatic that money can buy. Just because they’re so highly accessorized, and you can do anything and everything that you can possibly think of to the Ruger 10-22.
Guys, thank you very much for watching, and ’till next time, y’all be safe, and keep plinkin’.
Which is better for Self-Defense, Hunting or Plinking?
The 9mm and the .22LR are two popular ammunition out in the market. They are different in respect to cartridge sizes. Comparing the two in a head to head is easy when you’re only viewing the size of the caliber. The 9mm is bigger than the 22 round.
The .22 rounds have much less energy than 9mm rounds, the powder load is smaller. When fired has less acceleration and kinetic energy.
Which means the penetration and knock down power is not in the same class as the 9mm caliber.
However, that doesn’t mean the .22 isn’t good for anything.
Beginner shooters can start with the .22. With the less recoil, it helps newbies in learning all the basic marksmanship shooting.
For the more seasoned shooter, the .22 does offer speed in shooting and accuracy.
Now thats not to say that you can’t do the same with the 9mm. The FBI commissioned the 9mm caliber as the standard carry for their agents. In this instances, from a beginner perspective the .22LR would be a good starting point to develop their marksmanship. As a more experienced shooter, its a matter of preferences. (more on this later)
Which is better is not a simple A or B answer. These two calibers are quite popular amongst avid shooters, some may be more of the die-hard but it seems that they prefer these calibers for self-defense, hunting and plinking.
Let’s take a look at why these purposes serve one caliber and not the other.
For personal defense stopping an attacker in their track with good shot placement to the vital area takes paramount in priorities.
Which is why the 9mm takes the lead in this due to the bigger size and was specifically design for this purpose. (no brainer)
A quick word about “stopping the attacker” it means creating enough damage to cause significant blood loss and/or causing enough pain to make the attacker change their mind. So even if you’re packing a .22 J-Frame revolver and put 5 rounds into the attacker which compelled them to stop is also a good thing.
Shooting accurately and reliably can be about the Indian. But both of these rounds can do the same. The .22LR is probably more comfortable to shoot.
Penetration is another important factor, the ideal penetration needs to be at least 12 inches. (according to the FBI)
Most 22 LR does not reliably penetrate deep enough to strike something critical. 22LR was never designed to be a self-protection round and it serves poorly as one.
However, in some self-defense circle they believe the .22 is more capable than a lot of people give it credit for. For example, with the advancement in loads, the CCI Velocitor 40-grain small game load has been known to perform relatively well out of handguns.
Lucky Gunner tested a 1.9-inch snub nose revolver with the 22 shooting at the ballistic gel. All five rounds penetrated between 10 and 12 inches. There was no expansion, which is expected for a .22. Penetration is by far the more important attribute. The FBI uses a minimum standard of 12 inches of penetration for duty ammo but 10 inches is nothing to sneeze at.
With good multiple shot placement, a bullet from a .22 handgun should be more than capable of reaching the vital organs to physically disable an attacker or create enough pain to make them stop.
In this department its sort of unfair to compare the two for hunting because the 9mm was never meant for hunting purpose.
22LR ammo is a better choice for hunting for this purpose. The .22 is the more ideal round in this environment due to practicality. Of course we’re not talking big game here, but small game. Another thing is most .22LR for hunting is from a rifle. Unless you’re able to find a Stevens Model 35 pistol from the past.
This single shot pistol in rimfire calibers and the more rare .410 shotgun shell including the .22LR were the favorite of sportsman and target shooters of yesteryear.
The downside to this pistol is that its a single shot. This gun was knowns as “bicycle guns” because they were light and handy and perfect for bringing along on your country bicycle trip for small game and plinking. (back in the day)
The 9mm can be used for hunting, but its likely to cause much damage to small game, it would destroy the meat that you’re harvesting.
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Both rounds are accurate and easy shooting. Both are chambered in a variety of platforms and both are abundant and affordable. When it comes to basic target practice it seems either round will serve you well.
22 LR is often a much cheaper option as compare to 9mm ammo. The easy shooting 22 LR is excellent for new shooters and older people.
9mm is often the perfect caliber for shooters to move up once they are comfortable with the 22 LR. The 9mm can be used in rifle form for training and is still a blast to shoot. Both rounds certainly have their place when it comes to plinking.
Think about it this way — most of us who are serious about practicing our handgun skills on a regular basis tend to do the vast majority our shooting with a full size or a compact pistol chambered for a service caliber. That’s where we dedicate most of our training hours and our ammo budget.
Both rounds excel at what they are designed and to do, and that’s why they are the king of their respective bullet genres. Ideally its nice to have one of each.
If you are just starting out – it’s impossible to go wrong with a .22 LR caliber rifle/handgun as your first pick.
For a more experienced shooter and their purpose is everyday carry for self-defense, they will lean more towards the 9mm.
Then theres the prepper groupies, if they had to choose only one caliber, they will go with the .22LR. The .22LR is more pragmatic in that environment and conditions.
What would you choose?
Article by J Hines Photos from SIRT – Next Level Training and Accelerated Firearm Training
SIRT is a laser training pistol that allows training almost anywhere providing immediate feedback to the shooter. Take advantage of dead times during the day to implement training in almost any unused room or area at your facility. Fight the potential boredom perceived in training with a simple, but versatile, training tool that makes pistolcraft fun.
Take Your Pistolcraft to the Next Level with the SIRT Laser Training Pistol while NLT knows that dry fire training is no substitute for live fire training, neither is there a need to rely on it exclusively thanks to the Shot Indicating Resetting Trigger (SIRT) Laser Training Pistol and the exclusive laser feedback mechanism. Designed to complement, not replace, live fire training, the SIRT Dry Fire Training Pistol brings together a host of patent pending technologies critical to improving shooting accuracy while addressing issues of cost and liability.
The SIRT Training Pistol does not fire any projectile, and the lasers are not harmful. This is a complete system Critical features provides effective, consistent and rewarding training.
Patent pending shot indicating laser
Resetting trigger combined with the simulated weight of the pistol and magazine
A red trigger take-up indicating laser (that can be conveniently turned off)
Replaceable sights, all in a self-contained package
SIMULATED WEIGHT AND CENTER OF GRAVITY OF A LIVE FIRE PISTOL
The SIRT Training Pistol 110 Pro is designed to have a dry weight of 24 ounces with the center of gravity positioned slightly vertical of the trigger pin. (When engaging at full speed transitions and draws, a simulated weight and center of gravity is imperative for training to accelerate and decelerate the pistol while engaging in precise fine motor movements).
BODY MOVEMENT Maximize deceleration while maintaining control of the pistol to teach yourself to present the pistol and prep the trigger to minimize time to placing shots on the target.
LOW IMPACT – SHOCK ABSORBING MAGAZINE Magazine can be dropped on many types of flooring surfaces without damage.
TRAIN GUN HANDLING: DRAWS AND RELOADS The integrated lasers allow for proper training of draws of various pistolcraft skill sets. The SIRT Training Pistol comes with a weighted magazine to simulate the weight and center of gravity of 10 rounds of 124 grain 9mm ammunition, a fully loaded 15 round .40 caliber magazine with 180 grain bullets.
Built tough with sturdy steel construction, the SIRT Laser Training Pistol looks and feels like the real thing by matching the size, weight, and center of gravity of the live fire pistol. In addition, the SIRT Laser Training Pistol even offers a host of features including weighted training magazine and replaceable sights.
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Unlike a standard live fire or Air Soft pistol, the SIRT Laser Training Pistol provides instantaneous performance feedback and no need for ongoing expenditures such as ammo and targets through laser feedback. Because of its flexibility and cost-effectiveness, the SIRT doesn’t just permit additional training — it encourages it, view the video to see the drills.
Simple to use, the SIRT Laser Training Pistol is applicable to a range of training exercises including shooting accuracy, sidearm handling, integrated cardio and live course programs, and even force-on-force training scenarios. Because it does not discharge any type of projectile and instead uses laser feedback, the SIRT Laser Training Pistol can be used safely in nearly every environment and situation. Get the SIRT training pistol here.
Accelerated Firearm Training
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Yes, inside your home you can place these 6 electronic targets anywhere to practice and get instant feedback. This is the excerpt from AFT website: Choose a Course Of Fire from five available in the app: Steel Training, Saturday Steel, React, Practical Shooting, and Friend Or Foe. Range Officer commands can be enabled to direct the start of the Course Of Fire: “Are you ready?” “Standby!” followed by a 300ms start signal “Beeeep!”. Press the Start button on the Shot Timer screen and begin shooting at the start signal. Even a par time stop signal can be configured for time limited shot strings.
A Shot Timer view captures and displays target hits, cumulative times, split times, and overall scoring for each Course Of Fire. A Targets view shows target hit locations and features a sight picture visualization tool and shot correction chart overlays for analyzing shot groups.
The app is available for compatible Android and iOS smartphones and tablets.
Not all match-grade bullets are created equal, especially those featuring an aluminum tip.
STORY BY PHIL MASSARO • PHOTOS BY MASSARO MEDIA GROUP
In the cold, dry air of the eastern Oregon desert, the Leupold Optics Academy hosts its shooting courses at an impressive rifle range, with targets at distances from 100 yards to 2,000 yards. The ever-changing winds, the constant mirage and the physical location of the targets make for some very interesting shooting, to say the least, and you’ll want every advantage possible to make that steel ring.
There are many facets, but an accurate rifle, good glass and a proper
cartridge/bullet combination will make the shooter’s job much easier. Steel and paper targets are the playground of the match bullet, as they are not designed for any sort of terminal performance, and only concern themselves with their flight to the target. Match bullets have gone through some serious changes over the years, with some older designs (read: Sierra MatchKing) still leaned upon heavily, and some of the new designs being absolute game-changers.
One of the newer offerings that made an immediate impression on me – and was a definite advantage in those high desert conditions – was Hornady’s A-Tip Match.
DATING BACK TO 1947, when Joyce Hornady and Vernon Speer partnered to convert spent .22 rimfire casings into bullet jackets, the Hornady name has been equated with value, performance and innovation. Though Joyce is no longer with us, his son Steve and grandson Jason – as well as their excellent team of designers, engineers and ballisticians – have kept the products evolving, in both cartridge development and bullet development.
In recent years, Hornady has been responsible for the .375 and .416 Ruger, the .300 and .338 Ruger Compact Magnum, the .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire, and perhaps most famously, the 6.5 Creedmoor. Their projectiles are equally famous; think about the wonderful pair of DGX Bonded and DGS Solid bullets for dangerous game, the ELD-X hunting bullet and its brother, the ELD Match bullet, with their revolutionary Heat Shield tips, and most recently, the A-Tip Match.
In nearly all aspects of shooting, consistency equals accuracy, and that concept certainly holds true in the extreme long-range shooting world. When designing a match bullet, you’ll want all the parameters of that bullet to be as consistent as possible, including the weight of the bullet, the concentricity (or uniformity), the outer dimensions, and perhaps most importantly, the tip or meplat of the bullet.
The bullet industry has long labored to keep the meplats of match
bullets not only consistent throughout the construction phase, but also when resting in the magazine of a rifle. The hollowpoint design – employed for decades – is certainly sound, but you’ll find trimming tools designed for keeping the fine bullet noses consistent, in an effort to achieve a uniform ballistic coefficient value. It is a uniform BC (along with uniform muzzle velocities) that aids in long range accuracy, and projectiles have become increasingly complex in the
effort to attain the uniformity desired to routinely hit targets to 1,000 yards and beyond.
The polymer tip made a huge difference in keeping a consistent meplat, and therefore a consistent BC, but it was Hornady who discovered that their polymer tips were actually melting in flight, drastically affecting the BC downrange. Solving that problem was certainly a step in the right direction, and I’ve had great results with both the ELD-X in the hunting fields and the ELD Match at the target range.
But Hornady wasn’t done, and the pursuit of the perfect match bullet continued. Using aluminum for a meplat material wasn’t exactly a new idea; the original Winchester Silvertip used a flat-tipped aluminum cap as a means of slowing expansion, and Hornady themselves used a huge (in comparison to the A-Tip Match) aluminum tip on their National Match line of bullets years ago. But the manufacturing techniques of yesteryear are not those of today, and Hornady turned to aluminum once again to try and manufacture the ultimate meplat. DEAD FOOT ARMS
Hornady used their excellent AMP bullet jacket and machined a long, and very precise, aluminum tip, which relocated the center of gravity and
optimized the long-range performance of the A-Tip Match. And the tolerances held by Hornady are so tight you can barely feel the seam between copper jacket and aluminum tip.
AT THAT OREGON range, I had the opportunity to take the 135-grain A-Tip Match to task, handloaded in the 6.5 Creedmoor, launched from a Ruger Precision Rifle and topped with a Leupold Mark 5 7-35×56. Those handloads – the A-Tip Match is only available in component form, you see – generated an average muzzle velocity of 2,769 feet per second, as observed on a LabRadar unit.
In spite of wind gusts up to 20 mph, changing direction numerous times throughout the day, we were able to make solid hits out to the 1,500-yard mark, the furthest we could engage from the particular point we
were shooting from.
I found the A-Tip Match to shoot a bit tighter at longer ranges than
it did up close; it’s the type of bullet that needs a bit of time to stabilize. It handled wonderfully in those stiff winds, needing much less correction for wind deflection than other designs I’ve used. Admittedly, the 6.5 Creedmoor is a wonderfully accurate bullet, but the cartridge is made better by launching Hornady’s new A-Tip Match. On the last day of the Shooting Academy, we had an opportunity to use a different shooting position and stretch the Creedmoor/A-Tip Match combo out to the 1-mile mark. While my shots fell victim to the winds and transonic window (that’s my story, and I’m sticking to it), a couple of colleagues made contact at that distance.
Hornady ships the A-Tip Match directly off the machines in sequential order; in fact, they provide a polishing cloth bag to remove the machine lubricants. They are shipped in boxes of 100, and Hornady will sell you a sequential run of up to 500 bullets, in an effort to obtain the best consistency. They have also seen the wisdom of producing this bullet up and down the spectrum, with the geometry of each bullet being unique to the caliber/weight combination.
It is currently available in: .224-inch-diameter 90-grain bullet; 6mm-diameter 110-grain bullet; 6.5mm-diameter 135-and 153-grain bullets; 7mm-diameter 166- and 190-grain bullets; .308-inchdiameter 176-, 230- and 250-grain bullets; .338-inch-diameter 300-grain bullet; .375-inch-diameter 390-grain bullet; and .416-inch-diameter 500-grain bullet. My .300 Winchester Magnum shows a definite liking for the 230-grain A-Tip Match, though here in New York I have only had the opportunity to take it to 300 yards.
While Hornady offers both the G1 and G7 BC values for each of these bullets, we had excellent results using the 4-DOF ballistic program from Hornady, relying on an axial form factor rather than ballistic coefficient.
These are not cheap, as the street price will run between $0.80 and $1.35 per bullet, but they are a good value for those who take their precision shooting serious. Look at how our optics, receivers, barrels, triggers and stocks have changed for the better over the last 20 years. I can’t possibly understand why anyone would have an issue with an expensive projectile, especially considering that it is the only part of our setup that touches the target at all.
Hornady has a winner here, and I think you’ll see the product line expand over the coming years. Perhaps for the target shooter who stays within 500 yards there may be more affordable options – including Hornady’s ELD Match – but when the distances get truly long, look to the A-Tip Match.