No need to Suppress your Urge to Hunt more Quietly

Between improved Accuracy, Reduced Recoil, Scaring less game, widespread OK and Protecting your Hearing, there are a lot of reasons to consider Hunting with a Suppressor.

Featured Image above – SureFire’s SOCOM300-SPS Suppressor
Story by Frank Jardim and Photos by F.J.G. Jardim

Don’t let this turn you off, but at present, suppressors are considered Class II weapons and are regulated by the National Firearms Act and subject to the same controls as machineguns.
To legally possess one, at the very least, you’ll need to fill out some forms (online or old-fashioned paper ones), get finger-printed at your local police station, pay a $200 tax, and wait for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to process your approval paperwork. Online submissions have been approved in as little as a month, but the paper submissions can take up to a year. Sometimes states have a few extra hurdles, but overall, it’s not a big deal to get a suppressor and you shouldn’t be intimidated by the process.

Hunters have realized the benefits of using suppressors and they are rapidly gaining popularity with sportsmen and -women. Suppressors are legal to own in 42 states and legal to hunt with in 40. In addition, suppressors have been shown to often improve accuracy and reduce recoil.
The extra weight on the muzzle and the gases pushing forward against the baffles inside the suppressor are the source of the reduction in felt recoil. Gains in accuracy stem from less stressful shooting, like reduced involuntary flinching associated with a loud report, and sometimes from the suppressor’s effect on the harmonics of the individual rifle barrel.
Other than adding 6 to 32 ounces to the rifle and making it impossible to use low-mounted iron sights, there are no negatives to suppressed hunting.

A map from the American Suppressor Association highlights the states where suppressors currently are
legal for citizen use and where they are also permitted for hunting. (AMERICAN SUPPRESSOR ASSOCIATION)
Survivalist hunters were among the first to embrace suppressors. A good survival strategy usually requires keeping a low profile in the wilderness, harvesting your food and defending yourself with the same rifle. A suppressor can help you do both more discreetly, but probably not as much as you think it will if you formed your opinions about them based on TV and movies.
The reality is that most suppressed centerfire rifles are closer in report to an unsuppressed .22 LR rifle. That’s why silencers are more accurately called suppressors. Still, let’s not diminish the achievement. Getting the report of a .308 rifle down to the level of a .22 LR rifle is a huge improvement. You’ll scare away less game and draw less attention to yourself afield hunting with a suppressor, but the big gain is the protection of your hearing.

THE CALIBER AND type of ammo you shoot will affect suppressor performance. Though any cartridge can be suppressed, loads with subsonic velocity (below the speed of sound) are the quietest. If you need to hunt with maximum stealth, your power and velocity options are limited. Subsonic .22 LR and .300 AAC Blackout fired through a good suppressor are no louder than the mechanical noise of the action cycling, but their practical hunting range is limited to under 100 yards. That’s not so bad in heavily wooded areas where most shots are going to be within that range, but not so good in the wide-open spaces of the West. Also, keep in mind that if you are hunting with a .300 Blackout, you have really dialed the ballistic technology clock back about 100 years when .44-40 Winchester Center Fire killed more deer than any other caliber.

If you can tolerate a bit more report, and usually a little more recoil too, just about any supersonic caliber is going to retain more energy longer, extend your range and kill more efficiently and humanely. Suppressing the typical supersonic deer calibers won’t always make them ear-safe, but you’ll be giving up nothing in terms of the performance you expect from them.
Anything supersonic (almost any centerfire rifle caliber) is going to produce its own sonic boom (the crack of the rifle shot) and there’s nothing a suppressor can do to change that. What the suppressor will do is reduce the volume of the gunshot by 25 to 40 decibels, which means that sound won’t do as much damage to your hearing and won’t carry as far as an unsuppressed shot.
Consider that the ubiquitous foam earplugs you’ve used at the range reduce sound about 29 decibels. What guns sound like to you with earplugs in is similar to what they actually sound like suppressed. Ideally, a rifle suppressor should reduce the report of the firearm below 140 decibels. That’s the point at which permanent hearing damage occurs.
The truth is that not all of them will and more money won’t necessarily buy you better performance. Aside from the limitations of each suppressor’s design, varying barrel length, caliber and brand of ammunition can affect suppressor performance and, though the report will be reduced, it may not be hearing-safe.
But as far as your hearing goes, any suppressor is better than no suppressor. Destroying your hearing is easier than you think. Continuous exposure to noise above 85 decibels over time causes hearing damage. Between 70 to 80 percent of hunters use no hearing protection of any kind because of their desire for situational awareness in the field. The price of that awareness when a 140-plus-decibel shot is fired is an instant painful ringing in the ears and progressively less hearing every time they pull the trigger.

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Tion’s Dragoon, shown here with three different varieties of the company’s proprietary and ultrafast quick-attach/detach muzzle devices, is made of titanium and can be completely disassembled for cleaning and reconfiguration for maximum sound reduction. The SOCOM300-SPS (top) also has a quick-attach/detach mount, but it is 7 ounces heavier and not user-serviceable. Since it can’t be cleaned, it may not be the best choice for shooting a lot of .22 LR, in the author’s impression.
SUPPRESSORS VARY IN size, weight and durability. The military has favored quick-detachable, heavy, rugged, welded steel models like the SOCOM300-SPS made by Surefire. This 8-inch-long, 1½-inch-diameter, 20.3-ounce unit is made of stainless steel and high temperature alloy.
People have been known to shoot these suppressors on full-auto guns and get them red-hot. Suppressors can be made considerably lighter by using a combination of materials and simple, direct screw-on attachment. The Gemtech Tracker is an example of this type. It’s a tenth of an inch shorter than the SOCOM300-SPS but it weighs only 11.3 ounces due to its aluminum and titanium construction.
It is not designed to hold up under sustained rapid fire. Gemtech advises shooters to allow it to cool to ambient temperature after firing 10 rounds. The best combination of durability and light weight is found in suppressors made entirely of titanium, like the Tion Dragoon 7.62 Suppressor. It’s 9½ inches long and 1⅜ inches in diameter but only 12.95 ounces, equipped with a quick-detachable feature. Tion recommends allowing it to cool after 60 rounds of rapid fire through a 16-inch or longer barrel.
Modern suppressors are mounted on the barrel in one of two ways:
The simplest and cheapest is directly screwing it onto a threaded muzzle. Alternatively, suppressor manufacturers have invented various proprietary quick-detachable mechanisms that require the muzzle to be fitted with a special mounting base, but allow suppressor installation or removal in seconds. The best designed ones will change bullet impact minimally, 1 inch or less at 100 yards. The mounting bases frequently incorporate a flash hider or muzzle brake into the design for added utility when the rifle is fired unsuppressed.

The standard thread for .223-caliber suppressors is ½x28 threads per inch, or TPI. That’s the same thread you find on the muzzle of .223-caliber AR-15s, which makes suppressor installation a do-it-yourself operation. The standard thread for .30-caliber suppressors is ⅝x24 TPI. More and more companies are offering bolt-action hunting rifles with factory-threaded muzzles, but most older rifles are unthreaded.
Preparation of unthreaded muzzles for either direct screw-on or quick detachable suppressors requires the services of a skilled machinist with the knowledge to do single-point cut threads on a lathe. Don’t imagine you can do this yourself with a die you bought online.
I guarantee that even if you do manage to cut the threads straight, you will cut off too much material, resulting in a loose and totally useless fit. Then you’ll have to have the machinist cut off the part you ruined, recrown the muzzle, and then cut the threads properly on their lathe.

A screw-on suppressor is the cheaper way to go since you don’t have to spend an additional $99 to $125 for each quick-change mounting base. The quick-change feature would be helpful if you had several rifles in your survival cache to suppress. It also allows the installation of a .30-caliber suppressor onto a .223-caliber AR-15 rifle, something you could not do with a direct attach model because of the difference in mounting thread size.

Thanks to Utah-based SilencerCo, a company started
by two guys in a garage in 2008, shotguns now have
a practical suppressor in the Salvo 12.
YOU AREN’T GOING to be hunting elk or bear with subsonic .300 AAC Blackout, but plenty of deer-sized game have fallen to black powder rounds of comparable power. Loaded with a heavy 220-grain bullet, the round is quite effective for hunting wild pigs at under 100 yards.
If you’re hunkered down somewhere, you’ll want to minimize your hunting forays to reduce the chances of revealing the location of your hideout. In this case, it may make sense to hunt larger game to get the most meat for each of your precious bullets. If you’re on the move, it’s more likely you’ll be filling your cook pot with small game you can take with .22 LR. Does this mean you need two suppressors? The good news is no, but with some qualifications. The stacked (multi-piece) baffles commonly used in .30-caliber rifle suppressors will also reduce the noise of smaller calibers. Because .30-caliber suppressors are physically bigger, they are sometimes even more effective than a suppressor made specifically for the smaller rifle caliber; if they are worse, it is generally only by a few decibels. If you can buy only one suppressor, one designed for .30 caliber will be the most versatile.
Here’s the caveat: The manufacturers of permanently sealed suppressors advise against shooting .22 LR ammo through them because it is very dirty and leaves lead and powder deposits inside that build up over time and cannot be cleaned out. Continuously shooting .22 LR will eventually clog up and ruin your sealed suppressor, which you could easily have spent from $800 to $2,500 on, not including the $200 tax. In normal times jeopardizing your investment would be foolish, but any situation that has you bugging out to stay alive is not normal.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. The fact is it’s going to take a lot of .22 LR to clog up a big .30-caliber suppressor and your days of casually plinking away a brick of 1,000 rounds for fun ended when the looters cleaned off the Walmart shelves two hours after the Emergency Broadcast System came on the air. In that scenario, every bullet is a precious resource, and you won’t shoot even one except to put food in your belly or defend yourself. At that rate of fire, you won’t have to worry about suppressor degradation for many years. Using copper-plated bullets will help too.

Changes in hunting laws to permit the use of suppressors was a big factor
in the explosion of consumer interest in them. The result was lots of new
manufacturers coming into the marketplace. The choices today are vast.
Seriously evaluate your needs and do your research before you buy.
While almost all .30-caliber suppressors are sealed units that can’t be serviced by the user, or even the manufacturer, the Tion Dragoon 7.62 suppressor and Silencer Central’s Banish 30 are exceptions. Both suppressors are designed to be completely disassembled for cleaning by the user. This type of lightweight titanium suppressor would be ideal on a .22-caliber survival/hunting rifle. Because shooting .22 LR does no irreparable harm, you can practice your critical small game marksmanship until no bushy tail is safe within 50 yards.
While the American Suppressor Association has hopes to remove suppressors from the NFA list so they can be sold like ordinary firearms, this seems very unlikely to happen under the present presidential leadership. You can help; go to, where you’ll find a link to bill H.R. 95, the Hearing Protection Act, that allows you to directly email your representatives on Capitol Hill.

Suppressors: Less Bang for your Buck

With High Interest in ‘Cans’ and plenty of Manufacturers to pick from these days, here’s a look at seven of the best units for AR-type Rifles.

Story by Nick Perna

Suppressors, or “cans,” are becoming a common accessory on the firearms of professionals and sport shooters. Once viewed as an assassin’s tool used by mobsters and spies, they are now used routinely by military, law enforcement and others. They are not “silencers,” as they used to be referred to. They decrease the decibel level, but they cannot silence a firearm.
There are many advantages to running a suppressor on your long gun. In the tactical realm, they allow operators to run their guns without hearing protection. This allows for ease of communication amongst operators. Bear in mind that ear protection is still a good idea, especially with rifles and when firing rounds traveling at supersonic speeds.
Suppressors allow for more accurate, consistent shots through noise and, to a certain extent, recoil mitigation. Good suppressors don’t usually cause a big difference in shot placement when compared to shooting the same firearm without a can. There are minimal differences in round velocity with a decrease of about 1 to 3 percent in round speed. In general, they make guns more enjoyable to shoot.

Surefire SOCOM556 Mini 2(SUREFIRE) & SilencerCo Specwar 556. (SILENCERCO)
THERE ARE a few disadvantages worth mentioning. Some suppressors can cause more buildup of carbon and other debris inside of a weapon, so more cleaning may be required. There is also a safety concern anytime you attach an item to the end of a barrel. That being said, a good quality suppressor paired with a properly adapted bore – one with threads or specially designed flash suppressor – generally mitigates those issues. For any number of reasons, steer clear of homemade jobs.
The potential for a catastrophic malfunction when a high-velocity round strikes an internal part of a poorly made can is a distinct possibility. Besides, it’s illegal.
Suppressors get hot; really hot! The internet is full of videos of red-hot cans burning brightly after sustained fire. Care must be taken to avoid contacting them after shooting. There are suppressor sleeves available that are made out of burn-resistant materials that can help as well.

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One other drawback of note for non-military/non-law enforcement folks is what’s involved in purchasing one. Some states don’t allow them, and in the ones that do, paperwork needs to be filed with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to own one. Turnaround times for processing the paperwork is six to nine months and a $200 tax stamp has to be purchased.
This was the price set by the government in 1934 to try to make “silencers” out of reach for most folks. Nowadays, it’s still money no one wants to part with, but it’s comparatively a lot less painful. Despite all that, a suppressor can reduce the decibel level of a firearm by 25 to 40 decibels, which is significant. The noise level varies depending on the type of suppressor used, type of firearm and type of ammo, especially if subsonic rounds can be used. In some instances, a subsonic round may not have enough energy to cycle the action of a semiautomatic or fully automatic weapon. Like suppressors, though, there have been great advancements in the development and production of subsonic ammo to mitigate this and firearms can be modified to handle these lighter loads.

THE MARKET is currently flooded with suppressor manufacturers. For consumers, this means there are a lot of good cans to choose from. This also means there are suppressors available in just about every price range.
The weapons of choice for suppressors are AR-15s and their full-auto cousin, the M4. There is a great selection of cans available for 5.56 AR, as well as those chambered in .308 and other calibers. Here is a look at some of the best suppressors for AR-type rifles.


    Surefire is a mainstay in the suppressor business. They supply many of the cans used by the US military and law enforcement. As the name implies, it’s in use by SOCOM, the Special Operations Command. The Mini is compact at 5 inches and weighs under a pound. They can be had for around $1,000, so it’s a little pricey but worth the money. It works with the Surefire SOCOM 3 flash hider, which also allows other Surefire cans to be mounted to it and works well as a flash hider on its own. I’ve used Surefire brand suppressors extensively and have found them to be excellent, durable products.

    The Specwar model features a fast-attach mounting system, which means it can be removed and attached in seconds. They use a proprietary manufacturing technique referred to as True Bore that ensures precise bore alignment, which means minimal point of impact shift. In other words, the rounds will hit in pretty much the same place, regardless of whether the can is mounted or not. It brings the noise level down to around 133 decibels. You can pick one up for about $650.

    The IFM6 is a good suppressor that can be used with multiple weapons when used with the STS muzzle brake. It is a threaded system with the can being threaded onto the muzzle brake. This makes a good choice for the owner who wants to run it on multiple platforms. The company guarantees the suppressor won’t come loose during fire. It is 8 inches long, weighs in at 23 ounces and will bring the noise level down to 132 decibels. Cost: $1,199.

    The Paladin 5 is lightweight at 12.5 ounces. It uses titanium components to help keep the weight down. Size-wise it is just over 6 inches, making it pretty compact. Sound levels are around 131 decibels. It includes a taper-mount minimalist muzzle brake for mounting, armorer’s wrench, tool kit and pouch for $850. This is one of the lowest priced cans out there.

    Enter the Sandman. The Sandman-S is a fully-auto-rated can that weighs 17.7 ounces and is 6.8 inches in length. It’s built to take a beating and is considered to be one of the toughest cans out there. There are no barrel length restrictions when pairing it with a rifle. Cost: $850.

    The SRD556 is different from aforementioned models since it requires a threaded barrel to mount to. This results in a lower cost ($650) since no specific muzzle brake has to be mounted. As an added bonus, when permanently attached to an AR barrel, it counts towards the legal definition of the overall length of the barrel. Overall length is 6.4 inches with a weight of 14.5 ounces.

    This suppressor can easily be converted to work with 5.56/.223, .300 Blackout, .308, .300 Win Mag and 6.8 SPC. It MSRPs at $1,379, but given that it will work with multiple calibers, it is like getting multiple cans for one price. That also includes two flash hider mounts for 5.56 and .308. It is 7.5 inches long and weighs 16 ounces.
THERE ARE MANY good suppressor options out there today and there has never been a better time to buy one. As with all things fun in the firearms world, I recommend buying one sooner rather than later. You never know what is going to end up on the government’s “naughty list.”

Editor’s note: Author Nick Perna is a sergeant with the Redwood City Police Department in northern California. He previously served as a paratrooper in the US Army and is a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom. He also has a master’s degree from the University of San Francisco. He is a frequent contributor to multiple print and online forums on topics related to law enforcement, firearms, tactics and veterans issues.

Silencer: Gas Regulation And You

Last week we talked about some upcoming decibel metering tests of popular suppressors along with a few of the more unique commercially available models. Since then, I have been reading up on the proper use of a meter and some standardized testing practices (no, not like the SAT). Luckily I have a few experts on standby to assist in the trials. This week I thought we should discuss gas regulation when it comes to suppressing direct impingement (DI) rifles; specifically the AR15 and its variants.

Silencer: AR15 Gas Regulation

When it comes to suppressing semiautomatic rifles, the AR15 has to be at the top of the favorites list. And, to add another fictional data point to the mix, I’d be willing to be that that short barreled ARs are suppressed more often than longer barreled ARs. But, while both the AR15 and the silencer have enjoyed a huge spike in popularity in recent years, it is still relatively rare to hear shooters discuss the topic of gas regulation.

Gas regulation

Here’s the basics as told by a non-expert: A DI AR15 functions using a system where gases in the barrel are redirected through a port, a block, then a tube that leads to the a gas key on the bolt carrier. Those gases push the bolt carrier rearwards, cycling the action. Adding a suppressor to this system can cause more gases to be forced down the barrel and into the action, increasing cyclic rates, fouling, heat and other forces that can effect the reliability of the weapon system.

The commonly used term is “backpressure” – the gases that should have exited the barrel are instead redirected into the DI system. Different silencers handle gas in different ways – large volume models can sometimes handle the extra gas without pushing it back into the action. And internal geometry and baffle design, bore diameter, and overall length can all effect gas management in an AR15.

Different gas-system lengths come into play as bullets move down their barrels, reducing the pressure behind them. A longer gas tube corresponds to a gas port placed farther down the barrel (toward the muzzle), yielding lower port pressures, since there is more room for the expanding gases behind the bullet as it passes the gas port. Once the bullet leaves the muzzle, pressure drops off. Therefore, a gas port closer to the muzzle reduces the amount of time that highly pressurized gas has to act on the operating system after the bullet passes the port, usually referred to as “dwell time.”

Steve Adelmann – Shooting Illustrated, September 24, 2014

Using a barrel with a short dwell time (usually meaning a mid-length or rifle-length gas system) can offset the addition of a suppressor by offering reduced gas port pressures. Unfortunately, reduced dwell times can make a rifle more “finicky” (technical term) when using certain buffer and spring combinations and ammunition varieties.

Much like an unsuppressed rifle, a gas system of a suppressed rifle can be mitigated durning the build phase. People smarter than myself can take a barrel length, gas system and silencer an determine a gas port size that will function the rifle reliably.

A more likely scenario involves an “off the shelf” rifle that can switch between suppressed and unsuppressed fire reliably by controlling the gas entering the system. Starting closest to the gas port, one of the most popular options is an adjustable gas block that acts as a gate for gas flow.

Noveske Switchblock – The Clamp-On Switchblock® is a complete assembly with gas tube for use on barrels that are .750″ diameter at the front sight. Each Switchblock® model is designed for a specific caliber, barrel length, and gas system length.

Moving down the gas tube, Innovative Arms makes an upper receiver that includes a regulator switch that controls gas flow before reaching the action.

Innovative Arms WAR Upper: The Killswitch® of the W.A.R. is built directly into the upper receiver, meaning that you never unshoulder the rifle or use any tools. The adjustment can even be made in the dark. You can quickly and easily switch from suppressed to unsuppressed, or leave it in between the two settings to shut “off” the gas to manually cycle the rifle, all while keeping the rifle on your target.

And companies like Gemtech, 2A Armament and Bootleg Inc., make gas-adjustable bolt carriers that regulate flow at the gas key, directing the energy towards cycling the action or out and away from the system depending on a screw adjustment.

Gemtech Suppressed Bolt Carrier: The GEMTECH Suppressed Bolt Carrier is a drop-in replacement and will allow the shooter to choose between suppressed (S) and unsuppressed (U) settings without any permanent modifications to the firearm. No longer will you need to change gas blocks, buffers, or any other components. Not only that, but with the GEMTECH Suppressed Bolt Carrier, there is a reduction in carrier speed and less felt recoil, bringing the cyclic rate of the suppressed rifle down to unsuppressed levels.

The alternative choice, used by many shooters is to ignore gas regulation and instead alter recoil buffer and spring weights in an attempt to keep the system closed longer and slow the cyclic rate. Although this method is usually cheaper and easier, it does present some drawbacks. Perceived recoil can be heavier, more reciprocating mass means more wear and tear on internal parts and since more gas is entering the system, increased fouling can occur.

Unfortunately, there is not a single “best choice” for preparing an AR15 for running suppressed. As with everything in the shooting world, much of the decision process will rely on the “mission” requirements of you and your rifle and your style of shooting. And many times we just have to live with a little extra gas hitting us in the face.

When it comes to suppressing the AR15 in 5.56x45mm, I’m a sucker for a top shelf, mid-length gas system barrel between 11′ to 12.5″. The a shorter barrel helps to keep the overall length down to manageable levels with a silencer and mount attachment, the added length over a 10.3″/10.5″ barrel helps with increased bullet velocity and better/more efficient powder burn inside the barrel, and the mid-length gas makes for a smooth shooting rifle.

Pictured above from left to right (check out the differences in gas port sizes):

1. Dynamic Defense 12.5″ Sierra with a mid-length gas system (In for TFB Review).

  • Barrel Length: 12″ (measured from bolt face)
  • Caliber: .223 Wylde
  • Gas System: Mid-Length
  • Material: 41v50
  • Twist Rate: 1:8
  • Treatment: Melonite
  • Precision M4 Extension
  • 0.625″ Gas Block Size
  • Dimpled for Gas Block
  • Weight: 1lb 3oz
  • .078″ Gas Port
  • MSRP: $299

2. MicroMOA 17.3″ with rifle-length gas system (out of production)

3. Noveske 12.5″ Diplomat with a mid-length gas system

4. Daniel Defense MK18 10.3″ with carbine-length gas

  • Cold Hammer Forging of barrels has been known for decades to produce the most accurate, longest lasting rifle barrels obtainable. The Cold Hammer Forging of barrels is accomplished through intense hydraulic pressure applied at opposing angles by carbide steel hammers. During the hammering process, a mandrel is inserted into the bore while the carbide steel hammers shape the barrel around the mandrel creating the chamber, the lands, and the grooves. In addition to the aforementioned benefits, the Cold Hammer Forging process creates a defect free bore and the most consistent chamber possible.
  • .083″ Gas Port
  • MSRP: $289

Something to consider if you are in the market for a new silencer: A few manufacturers are starting to design suppressors specifically to address back pressure, which could eliminate the the need for any additional gas regulation.

NexGen2 MaxFlo3D: NEXGEN2 Defense (NG2) has brought new suppression technology to the market with their MAXFLO 3D™. Utilizing “Advanced Flow Dynamics™ (AFD)” Zero Back-Pressure Suppression™ technology. The MAXFLO 3D rewrites the rules in firearms suppression. Rather than start with existing designs, NG2 erased the template and started from scratch. The result changes the game in firearms suppression. The MAXFLO 3D™ virtually eliminates all of the major issues common with firearms suppressors, back-pressure, first round “pop” and flash, accuracy robbing turbulence, recoil, excessive heat buildup, and more.

Suppressing the AR15 makes shooting fun and enjoyable, especially reducing the blast and concussion on short barreled rifles. By regulating gas, you can make your rifle an excellent silencer host.

A Silencer on a Muzzleloader is not a Gun

SilencerCo’s Maxim 50 suppressed muzzleloader caused a hoot on the internet. A gun with a silencer that doesn’t require ANY paperwork? One that can be MAILED to a buyer’s house, WITHOUT A BACKGROUND CHECK? Yup, pretty much. CNN reports that the Maxim 50 has the ATF’s blessing . .

Quoted: Silencers are subject to federal gun control laws that are more restrictive than for most guns. They are treated like machine guns, requiring a more intensive background check that takes months to process, with a $200 tax.

But muzzleloaders are not subject to federal gun control laws because they use antiquated firing mechanisms without modern ammunition, said Max Kingery, chief of the Firearms and Ammunition Technology Criminal Branch of the ATF. “Thus, there would be no federal restriction on the sale or distribution of this item,” he said.

SilencerCo provided CNNMoney with a letter from the ATF that greenlights the Maxim 50, saying that their silencer is not considered a silencer because it’s permanently attached to the muzzleloader, which is not considered a gun. End of Quote..

Nope. A muzzleloader is a ham sandwich. Wait. Then that means the FDA would get involved.

Anyway, California, Massachusetts and New Jersey balked at “allowing” sales of the Maxim 50, forcing the company to suspend sales in those states.

That’s what was stated from SilencerCo. Before trotting out the obligatory Brady Campaign kvetch, CNN cast some doubt on CA, MA and NJ’s anti-ballistic blowback:
“A company spokesperson was unable to specify who the claims were from. CNN reached out to the attorneys general for the three states. Massachusetts said it didn’t file any claims and New Jersey and California did not respond to CNN’s inquiry.”

Well, if they didn’t take action against Americans exercising their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear a silencer-equipped muzzleloader, that would be news. Be on the look out in the future.

Sources: CNNMoney, Robert Fargo

Watch a Bullet passes Through A See-Through Suppressor

Suppressors capture and keep the gasses released within a gun barrel after firing. To see one fill with fire, smoke and (in some cases) break up into pieces is quite something to behold. Thanks to high speed filming, slow motion technology and a see through suppressor to give us pure enjoyment.

If you’re into the science of it all Dustin explains some of this in the video. But for most of us that are just bewildered with the slow motion, just enjoy the visuals.

Sources: Soteria Firearms Suppressor, Smarter Everyday Youtube

Suppressors Myth

There are some myths about suppressors out there. Most of these myths comes from gun owners that don’t own a suppressor. Fortunately, we have United States Marine Corps Gunner Christian Wade to set the record straight.

Gunner Christian Wade is a Chief Warrant Officer 5 and is the Gunner for the 2nd Marine Division, literally making him an expert on small arms and their employment. I don’t know about you, but I can’t think of a better source for reliable information regarding the employment of suppressors by the Marine Corps and busting some common suppressor myths than him. Take a look at the video.

As you can see suppressors do not adversely impact the lethality of a weapon when it uses standard ammunition. Truth be told, this is probably a myth about suppressors that comes from people playing too much Call of Duty, which imposes a damage penalty on suppressed weapons.

Sources: USMC, Gunner Christian Wade, John McAdams, Funker530 – Combat Footage, 2nd Marine Division Combat Camera

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Suppressed Glocks Dual – Silencerco Osprey

If you’re into Glocks and suppressors, especially Silencerco Osprey you can’t miss this one. This Glock lover is sporting dual handguns, in the left hand is a Glock17 (9mm) and a Gen4 FDE Glock21 45ACP in the right hand. Watch as he unloads both with high capacity magazines in dual quiet gangster fashion. Its amazing to see and hear the majority of gun noise are coming from others blasting away.

Sources: HauseofGuns Youtube

Is it the Weight or the Velocity that makes it Quieter?

James Yeager of Tactical Response demonstrates how different projectile weights affect overall sound suppression, and he uses a YHM Phantom. Maybe suppressor owners already know this or not, its worth looking at how the higher grains affect the sound. The higher the grain the quieter it got, simply due to the velocity not the weight. Very interesting video!
Video Transcription
1: It’s the 85 grain, am I on the camera here?

2: Yep!


2: Righteous!

1: Ok

2: 125-grain

1: One-twenty-five!


2: Just like that.

1: Very controllable.

2: 200

1: Should start gettin’ quiet now.


2: Damn.


1: We’re shooting at a cardboard target, it’s about 25 yards, I don’t know if you could hear it or not, but you should be able to hear it thwack that cardboard.

[More shots, thwacks included]

1: The re-set on this trigger, it’s a CMC trigger, right?

2: Yep!

1: It’s really crisp, and really light.


1: Ok.

2: So nice.

1: And this should be the quietest. C’mon you beyootch.

[Shots, thwacks]

1: Super quiet.

2: That’s awesome!

1: Super, super, super quiet.

Sources: James Yeager, YHM Phantom

Do Silencers make the same sound as in the movies?

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For those that have not the privilege to shoot a suppressed firearm. Some of our readers wanted to know if there is much differences in the actual sound of suppressed versus what you hear in the movies.

Mythbusters steps up to the plate to test this out. The following is from one of their series Episode: “Blow Your Own Sail”. In this video they lightly touch on-the-how a silencer work to decrease the sound. Eventually, getting into the nitty gritty of testing the sound of unsuppressed vs suppressed. The results are.

For the suppressor owners, you already know its a huge differences. When suppressed its safe to say the sound was from “dangerous to your hearing to safe”. As for the suppressed silencer that you hear in the movies, well with a little bit of sound effects, it just makes it sound cooler.

There are other benefits to the silencer gun, such as:

  • The extra weight reduces both muzzle lift and the recoil
  • Reduce the sound and the concussion– the blast of the bullet
  • Reduces the muzzle flash to zero

All of these benefits makes the silencer a safer gun to play with.

[su_heading size=”30″]Video Transcription[/su_heading]

Narrator: The next classic Hollywood sound effect to get the Mythbusters treatment is the gun silencer. And down at the South San Francisco Police Department shooting range, the boys mean business. Cue Myers Sound Senior Audio Scientist, Doctor Roger Schwenke. With several previous appearances on the show, he gets the much sought-after title of Honorary Mythbuster. And today, he’s brought along his labratory-grade recording and analysis equipment.

Jaime: We wanna see whether these things actually make the same sounds in real life that they do in the movies. Or do they make any sound at all? How do these silencers work? Well, they’re kinda like mufflers on cars. They’ve got a series of baffles in them that sort of slow down and re-direct the gasses that’re passing through, and absorb a lot of the energy in the sound.

Narrator: That’s how silencers silence, but outside a movie theater, what exactly are they used for?

Adam: Look, we would be remiss if we didn’t explain that this is not an assassin’s tool. Actually, military and law enforcement love suppressors for four main reasons. The extra weight out at the front of the gun actually reduces both muzzle lift and the recoil of the gun, making it easier to aim and stay on target. It does actually reduce the sound and the concussion– the blast of the bullet, and it also reduces the muzzle flash to zero; all of which makes this a safer and easier weapon to use.

Narrator: Right. Let’s get down to testing. First up, Adam and Jaime take aim at a baseline.

Adam: First, we are going to fire an unmodified pistol at the target.

Adam: Aaand three, two, one!


Adam: Then we’re going to put a silencer on that gun and shoot again at the target, and compare the silenced round sound to the original gun sound and to the movie sound effect of the silencer.

[more gunshots]

Adam: I’m holding a silenced pistol! It’s just as cool as you think it is.

Narrator: Now for the suppressor. Is the movie version anything like reality? Do silencers work as well in real life as they do on film?


Jaime: That’s nice!

Adam: That was pretty cool! That seemed a lot quieter than I thought it would!

Narrator: And Jaime’s nine-milimeter pistol is equally surprising.


Narrator: It’s an impressive improvement, but for analysis, let’s hear from our expert acoustician. First, decibels. A measure of the intensity of the sound pressure.

Roger: So, we go from a hundred-sixty-one and then suppressed we go down to 128.

[Adam whistles]

Roger: That’s a big change. That goes from dangerous to your hearing to safe.

Narrator: But it’s not just the power, the texture and time signature of the sound is also altered.

Adam: Can we hear ’em?

Assistant: Here’s unsuppressed. [Sound]

Adam: Ok, now let’s hear suppressed. [Sound]

[Adam laughs]

Jaime: Yeah, that tells the story.

Narrator: And it’s a story worth hearing again. A story with a surprise ending!

Adam: I swear I went into this one thinking it would be completely busted, I’m kinda blown away.

Narrator: But what about the all-important movie version? How does that stack up?

Adam: Can we hear the Hollywood sound?

Roger: Sure.

[Pew!] [Adam laughs]

Adam: Dude, that is far out.

Narrator: Far out indeed, but although it’s not quite identical, the real-life suppressor does reduce the volume of the gunshot to Hollywood levels. And that’s enough to impress Adam. A lot.

Adam: One of the most common questions we get is ‘Are we surprised by the results that we come up with on the show’. Today? Monstrously surprised. I arrived at work this morning expecting that we would completely bust the myth that you could possibly suppress the sound of a bullet anywhere close to what the movies would lead you to believe, and I leave today being a convert to the idea. This thing’s totally plausible! The only reason I’m not calling it a ‘confirmed’, is instead of a ‘Pew, pew!’ sound like they do in the movies (I’m shooting my cameraman’s knees out, here) it’s more of a ‘PShEW, PShEW’ sound. But that is picking nits as far as I’m concerned! This is astonishing!

by J Hines

Sources: DrGl0ck23 Youtube, Mythbusters, Discovery Channel

Oil Filter Suppressor for your gun

A quality suppressor can cost close to $1000. If you are on a budget, this guy has the solution for you – an oil filter. Has anyone ever tried one of these? It sounds pretty damn quiet!

Video Transcription:
[Chris] Alright, I’m Chris with American Specialty, and we’re here with Tom Cole, owns Cadiz Gunworks. We’re gonna show you the Econo-Can, which is a registered adaptor that is actually a suppressor with the ATF. You take the suppressor, and you put it on the oil filter, and then screw it on your gun like the one over here. We’re going to show you the difference between an actual suppressor, and the econo-can that you can get for seventy-five dollars, and register it on a $200 tax stamp.

[Tom] This is Tom Cole with Cadiz Gunworks, demonstrating our econo-can on a P-22 walther, and this is not an airsoft.

[loud clicking on fire]

[Chris] Definitely bulletholes, an airsoft gun is not gonna do that.

[Chris] Alright, now we’re gonna try the econo-can with a larger can on it, on a 10-22 short-barrel rifle. Go ahead.

[loud clicking]

[Tom] You’re right, it’s not sighted in.

[Loud clicking]

[Chris] That’s quiet.

[Loud clicking]

[Chris] Alright, now compare it to a Walther with a sparrow– 22 sparrow suppressor on it.

[Loud clicking]

[Chris] Alright, many of you recognize the hillbilly deluxe from one of my previous videos, we’re gonna run it full-auto through the econo-can with a larger can.

[Fast Popping]

[Tom] I think we’re not getting any major stress to the body of the cylinder. Just a nice hole in the end.

[Chris] Thirty rounds of full-auto.

[Tom] 5.45 by 39.

Source: American Specialty Ammo Youtube