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In this segment of WW2 firearms, two lucky shooters from Iraqveteran8888 Youtuber got a chance to fire the M3A1 “Grease Gun” and in doing so they were in awed by its raw power. Watch as they shoot this historic firearm, showcasing how forceful it still is today.
According to Wikipedia, “The original M3 was an answer to the somewhat complex design and high production cost of the M1A1 Thompson during World War II.” This ‘Grease Gun’ was made cheaper for WWII, and used actively up until Desert Storm.
Did you notice how accurate the firing was? It was by no means created for precision shooting as it’s main purpose was for area shooting.
This gun was semi accurate up to 75 yards, so if you’re looking to get your own soon be sure to shoot within this range. Chambered for the .45ACP cartridge, it is notable for its very low rate of fire – 350-400 rpm, which made it quite controllable and easy to shoot for relatively inexperienced troops.
Photo from GettyImage
Sources: Iraqveteran8888, Johnny Certo, Wikipedia, ForgottenWeapons
In this TFB TV video, James gets to review the Kel Tec Sub 2000 sub-rifle. This model is the 2015-new “Gen2” variant which has several upgrades over its very popular predecessor, which James discusses fully in this video.
The SUB2000 folds completely in half and uses popular pistol magazines such as Glock 17 magazines. Because the Generation 2 SUB2000 has a threaded barrel, James gets to try it out with his Advanced Armament Evolution-9 silencer. How does the generation Gen2 stack up to the first generation model?
Hey guys it’s james, TFB TV, and I’ve got something really exciting for you today: This backpack. Naw, I’m just kiddin’. I’ve got the Kel-Tec SUB2000 Glock mags Gen2. That’s right, brand new one. We’re gonna take it for a spin on this episode of TFB TV. Took it out to the louisianna swamp, sweat my ass off trying this thing out for you guys, you’ll see that right away. Before I get started though, I wanted to say thank you to our newest sponsor Grizzley Targets, the toughest steel targets on the market; and thank you as usual to Ventura Ammunitions. I hope you guys enjoy the review, check it out, leave a comment, and subscribe. Thank you.
Hey guys, James again for TFB TV. Today I’ve got the brand-spanking-new Gentec Sub2000 Carbine. Many of you are probably familiar with the Generation 1, that’s right, the pistol caliber carbine that folds in half, except this version accepts Glock17 mags. But my initial impressions:
Very lightweight. This thing is, as you would expect from Kel-Tec, a lot of polymer, so it’s really lightweight, but it seems to be well-constructed. It doesn’t feel cheap, it feels pretty well-made. You can see it’s got the folding mechanism, there’s a notch right here that retains– it grips on, you can see, to the front portion right behind the sight, and keeps it locked, keeps it locked tight. Once you remove that, it snaps into place, and then if you want to fold it again, just lift the trigger guard slightly, and then it folds right back, snaps into place again. Really neat, it folds down to– god that is a loud osprey. Really neat, folds into a very compact package; and for you Glock owners out there, you’ve already got the magazines for it. You can use your 17-rounders, you can use your 33-round stick mags.
Sights are pretty good, you can see there’s a rear peep sight, similar to a maytec. It feels like– this is polymer, then you’ve got like a half-hooded front sightpost right here, so the sights are pretty decent on this thing.
We’ve got cross-bolt safety, it’s a little bit out of the way but you can still manipulate it with your firing hand, so that’s not so bad. Charging handle is right here in the back. I’m not sure how I feel about it, it takes quite a bit of tension, so it’s a little bit awkward to have it under here and so close to the back of the stock. But, you know, it works. You’ve got a right-handed magazine release, not ambidextrous and it doesn’t look interchangeable, either. One slight drawback, no bolt hold-open. You’ve got to manually charge it every time you go dry. In the Gen2, Kel-tec added picatinny rail above and below, you can definitely mount an aimpoint or an eotec or something on this thing, but you’ve got to think about the fact that if you did that, you’re not gonna be able to fold it in half anymore. So, that seems like a nice feature, but I’m not sure that everybody’s gonna exploit it. But it is nice to have the rail underneath, so if you wanted to add like an AFG or a flashlight or both, you’ve got quite a bit of real-estate here, so that’s real estate.
And you get to see me shoot this suppressed, because there are 1/2 by 28 threads underneath this thread protector on the muzzle. Pretty cool.
Stock and the stock-retention nut are metal, so is the charging handle, the bolt, of course, and the barrel. Pretty much looks like the front sight block is– might be metal, too. Yeah, the front sight block is aluminum. But most of the body is polymer, so again, very lightweight and it’s gonna be exciting to shoot this thing. Let’s try it out.
The Sub-2000 redesign was actually pretty ingenius. They made several substantial changes. First of all, they made the stock adjustable to three different positions. It has an updated angle with a wider footprint and short-tooth gripping. It’s got also the single-point sling attachment and a webbing-sling loop.And it’s actually got- I didn’t even notice this at first- a little bit of picatinny rail on the bottom of the stock.
Second, the bolt tube. They did a salt-bath nitride finish to the bolt tube that they say adds lubricity and scratch-resistant properties for the bolt-tube. Third, the grip: They integrated a larger ejection port to assist with ejection, and they also added GatorGrip to this area.
The forend was one of the most substantial improvements that they made. It includes top and bottom integral picatinny rails, standard; five standard m-lock slots per side, which is pretty smart, and gator-grip all over that too.
Fifth, the sight is now constructed of aluminum; easier, more consistent controls for elevation and windage, and it can be removed to expose more threaded area if needed. Plus, the redesign just looks cool as hell.
Kel-Tec said they did the redesign for three reasons: first of all, they wanted to modernize it, which makes sense, and they made some great improvements to it. Second, they said that this is one of their more popular rifles, so they wanted to take some steps to be able to increase production volume of the rifle, and finally they said that they integrated a lot of consumer feedback, which is always really cool for a company to do.
The MSRP in the Sub-2000 is five-hundred bucks.
Alright, let’s shoot this thing. So, you pull this little– hmm. What would you call that. This tab. You pull this tab back -I like that, tab- you pull this tab back, you deploy the front of the gun, Like I said the charging handle is under here, it’s a little awkward, but it’s a nice charging handle, and you know, it’s a good place to put it. Keeps the whole package compact from the top down. So not bad. Let’s see how it shoots.
That’s pretty nice. As I mentioned at the beginning, there’s no bolt hold-open, which is kind of a downer, and you have to manually charge it every time, but this thing shoots really well. The trigger’s about what you would expect from Kel-Tec, you know, it’s nothing special. It’s not bad, it’s not that great either, but it’s definitely a serviceable trigger.
The recoil, recoil impulse is a little bit more than, say, you know, like your MP5 or your Uzi, but those are substantially heavier guns. One of the huge advantages to this Kel-Tex is how light it is. That’s what’s nice about it. So, I’m not gonna hold that against the Kel-Tec.
As far as the shooting experience goes, you can’t lose sight of the fact that this really is a utilitarian gun. This is a good truck gun. This is a gun that folds in half. So you can’t expect too much out of it in terms of shooting experience. However, there’s nothing really wrong with it, either. The trigger’s okay, it feels fine in terms of recoil, it’s really not that bad, it’s just fun. You get your glock magazines, you’re shooting 9mm which is cheap, and it’s still powerful to get the job done. It’s a good home-defense weapon.
So here’s something I really love, from the factory with the Gen2 P2000, you get half-by-28 threads. So if you own a suppressor, this is big news for you. I mean you would have had to at least spend money to get the factory barrel threaded, so the fact that Kel-Tec has already done that work for you could save you a couple-hundred bucks, and it’s a nice feature to have. I love it, I think it’s a great idea.
So I’m gonna treat you guys to a little symphony by AAC.
Shoots fine with a suppressor, it actually is a little bit on the loud side out of my right eat, with the action being right here. Not as quiet as a pistol where you’re holding it out in front of your face. Hey and it still folds up into a pretty compact package.
Yeah this thing’s really been a blast today. It’s been great to shoot. But you’ve gotta remember, you’re not shooting the Cadillac of 9mm carbines here. I guess the better analogy would be to say you’re shooting the Jeep of 9mm Carbines. This thing is very functional. It seemed rugged. We’ve put hundreds of rounds through it today, throughout the day, and it’s been 100% reliable. It’s fun as hell, not to mention, and it’s got some really well-thought-out features.
The operation to take down and re-deploy this gun works really well, and it locks positively in both positions, both deployed and not. So you don’t have to worry about this Kel-Tec being folded up and then accidentally deploying. And hey, best part: if you’ve got a Glock 17, you’ve got the mags you need already.
Also if you remember my magpull, the new GL-9 magazine test, those are available to you now, and they’re gonna be $15 a pop.
So my final thoughts on the Sub-2000:
First of all, those of you who are already familiar with the Sub-2000, you know what this is, you know what you’re getting into, and chances are you probably love it. Kel-Tec has a winner here, I know they’re gonna sell these things like crazy. This is probably the perfect truck gun. The compatability with Glock17 magazines is genius. The improvements offered by the Gen2 over the gen1 are also a nice touch, and it just looks cool.
You really shut it down whenever you fold this thing in half, you show this to somebody, you know I brought it to the range today and deployed it, and you know it makes everybody go nuts, they think it’s the coolest thing ever, and it really is.
The shooting experience isn’t anything special, and for a 9mm because it’s so lightweight, it’s got a little bit of kick to it, but again it doesn’t shoot poorly. It isn’t like it has a bad trigger, it isn’t like it’s got killer recoil, it’s a nice-shooting gun. If you have to sum up this gun: it just works. It’s reliable, it’s practical, it’s got a great utilitarian aspect in that it folds up, I know you guys are going nuts about this, it’s probably one of the most exciting guns that I’ve reviewed for TFB TV at this point. Good for Kel-Tec, they’ve got a real winner here, and guys at Kel-Tec: Thank you for letting me try it out, I really do appreciate the T-‘n-E gun, hope you let me keep it. And I really want to thank our sponsors again; Mike at Ventura Munitions, thank you, and Grizzley Targets, thank you for sponsoring TFB TV. And to all you viewers out there, thank you for watching, and I hope you keep subscribing and I hope you keep watching. Thanks again, take care.
Razorback 22LR Beltfed Conversion for the AR15 rifle – Credits go to LSM1213
Tired of stacking up old magazines on your plinker? Lakeside Guns has the solution for you — a beltfed .22 LR. Correct, the Lakeside Machine has a clever transformation for AR-15 style rifles, called the Razorback. This altered upper receiver allows you go through rimfire ammunition by means of a belt. Maybe best of all, it requires no alteration to the lower receiver to slap one on. In general, the Razorback gives off an impression of being for the most part a novelty but be that as it may, what the hell, it would so cool to bring one at the range.
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This AR-15 with a two-inch barrel takes it to another level and is just insane.
AR-15 style rifles sporting shorter length barrels are high in demand these days. But how short is just too short on a registered short barreled rifle (SBR)?
Well, try this one. Yes, that barrel is actually only two inches long. When firing the 5.56x45mm/.223 caliber cartridges, the tips of the bullets protrude out of the barrel. This can be witnessed in the video before each shot is taken.
Is a 2″ barrel a good idea on an AR-15 rifle? Maybe not, but it does still shoot. Would you take a chance and shoot this ultra short-barreled AR-15?
In this shoot (no pun intended) Eric Youtuber takes out a the POF P416 for a little fun. The idea is to get a new gun out and start shooting it till it breaks. This is a different approach compared to doing a sand and mud stress test.
One of the thing that Eric is testing is “stuck case“, this tends to stick more on an AR when the chambers are dirty. Eric will be running Wolf 62-Grain ammunition, using Magpul P-mags and D60 drums loaded with fifty rounds.
Eric does mag dump after mag dump until a weapon fails to see how this POF performs.
This is just a pure meltdown test on the POF, see the action below for results.
In reality these tests prove nothing. Magazine fed, closed bolt, air-cooled weapons with thin barrel are not meant to act as squad automatic weapons. However, for us into guns, watching this type of test is extremely satisfying to watch.
Alright Guys, welcome back, this is Eric with Iraqveteran8888, and you guessed it, we’ve got another meltdown video for you guys today, we’re gonna be having some fun with the POF P416. This is an awesome machinegun, we thought we would do something a little bit different than what we’ve done in some of the previous videos. You know before we were kind of cobbling together guns or sort of building guns, which is fine, and we’ll probably end up doing a little bit of that in the future as well, but we thought ‘hey, why not get POF down’, get a factory machine gun out, and have a little fun, see what it takes to kill this thing. So, we’re gonna talk a little bit, briefly, about this gun, it’s got some really interesting features. You’ve got a 10 and 1/2 inch fluted, medium-profile barrel.
So for starters, it’s definitely a rigid barrel, you do have some flutes, so there are some points there that, maybe, who knows, that could fail or something, we’ll see. The operation is a short-stroke gas piston arrangement, so it is a piston upper, and POF as a company is known for making great guns in that respect, so you know we’re gonna get some nice clean operation right here. This barrel nut acts as a really big ‘ol honkin’ great heatsink right here, which is great, hopefully we’re gonna see that kind of– the thermal, maybe, will give us an idea what’s going on in terms of heat transfer right there, we’ve got a Trijicon MRO, which is a great optic. You know of course in these videos, I don’t typically use the optic, but hey, we wanna see if it jettisons off or falls apart or breaks, maybe later if the gun is stll running, we’ll see if she’s still running right and everything like that, which of course, I don’t expect anything less there. Also, an important factor of this gun that we need to mention is the E-square chamber system, there are these minor little flutes that are cut into the neck area in the chamber to aid in extraction and injection. The expanding gasses actually assist in extraction, so it’s a really really cool system. Hopefully we won’t get any stuck cases, which, really we are running Wolf 62-Grain ammunition today, so, if you’re gonna get a stuck case, it’s generally gonna be steel, tends to stick a little bit worse in ARs. But ARs are notorious for getting stuck cases if the chambers are not kept clean, so that’s something we’re gonna be more or less testing here.
We’re going to be running the test in the same exact order as all the previous videos, so all the mags are staged up, running Magpul P-mags for almost the entire test here for the most part, we’ve got D60 Drums, but they are loaded down with fifty rounds, to mimic the 50-round counts that ran in the Xproducts drums in the first videos. So, that’s also going to be a test of the D60 drums as well, so let’s uh, get this sucker stoked up, ready to go, and we’ll see what it takes to kill a little 416 here.
Alright guys, POF P416, let’s run her ’till she stops!
Here we go!
Going along swimmingly.
Oh this looks fun.
What did all that poor dirt down there do to me?
Getting an odd rate-of-fire change there, that’s kinda weird.
Larry Vickers gets a chance to take this ultra-rare Sako M92S Rifle down range, which was based on the Soviet AK and Valmet Rifles.
The semi-automatic only Sako M92S rifle fires the 7.62x39mm cartridge. This model has a folding stock, a grenade launcher adapter and gas cut off switch. With many other add-ons, this rifle with a milled receiver is quite the shooter. The magazine release is very slick.
According to Larry, the shooting feels soft and thinking that the Fin’s did not overload the gas like the AK-47, most AK’s are overloaded with gas.
This sweet-shooting Finnish rifle is given a great workout. Witness what Larry Vickers has to say while shooting this Sako M92S rifle.
Hey Gang, here today I have a very rare semiautomatic version of a finished Army assault rifle. This is a Sako M92S. It is a Civilian Semiautomatic version of the Finnish RK95 select-fire assault rifle, which is essentially the last, and possibly the one that’s gonna close the chapter on the famous Valmet series of Assault Rifles, which in and of themselves were based on the Soviet AK. Now this one’s in 7.62×39, it has one of the black polymer magazines, interestingly enough up here of course you have the lanyard loop ‘cuz remember they get a lot of snow up in Finland. Sidefolding buttstock, which is unusual on the Civilian semiautomatic version the M92S, because generally they had a fixed buttstock that did not side-fold. This particular one has a side-folder, it also has the AK-style selector that goes with the side-folding buttstock. You also have night sights, in addition to your standard aperture, host front. Up front, you have a multi-function flash suppressor which also takes rifle grenades, and you can see, heavily influenced by FN. Upturned charging handle, which of course you see on the Galeel. Now, one thing I’ve seen, I’ve seen some pictures of this particular weapon on the Internet, we don’t have a really good system to mount optics to it. You’ll see some optic-mounting solutions that’re on the left side of the gun that are not ideal.
I’m gonna bust some caps outta this thing here in just a second, and give you my shooting impressions of probably the only one in the United States. Sako M92S. Stay Tuned.
Alright, picking up the M92S right off the bat, you can tell it’s got some weight to it. Partially because it uses a forged and machined lower-receiver, the Valmets are kinda famous for that. They did make some weapons with stamp-sheet metal receivers, but a lot of their guns had forged, machined steel lowers. Now, there’s no reason in this day and age you couldn’t go with a stamp-sheet metal receiver, and then that, though you may compromise somewhat on durability and accuracy, downrange, bottom line is for a soldier it’s lighter weight, and you’re gonna always be carrying a gun more than you’re shooting it.
Alright, time to load it up and go hot. Alright here we go.
Ok, right off the bat, pretty soft shooting. Not only in the weight, but my hunch is, the Finns didn’t over-gas it like a lot of 7.62×39 AKs are over-gassed. In addition, I’m shooting good old Finnish Lapua ammunition, in 7.62×39, this stuff is fantastic, it has an excellent reputation for quality, and also for being very very accurate. On the magazine release I’ve noticed right-handed shooters, you have this extended tab right here, so you can extend your trigger finger down as a right-hander, hit it, take the mag out. You can also come up with your thumb if need be, alright, take the mag out as well. Pretty slick.
Now one of the things the Finns have really endeavored to do here, is try to cinch down the top cover. This has always been the issue with the AK, in terms of sights or optics that are mounted on the top cover, you always have the devil in the details of trying to cinch this thing down tight. If you notice, they have a little cam lever over here, to really cinch it and lock it down. Now, they don’t really mount optics to this top cover, but they’re concerned about it from an Iron Sight point of view. Let me bust a few more.
Cool. Now, night sights are standard on this, you flip the rear sight in that in-between position, and then you have a rear pistol notch here that has a night sight, and then up front you flip up your night sight. Now you have the ability to run this gun at night with standard-issue night sights. Not a bad idea. I’m more of a fan, frankly, of the front-sight only as a night-sight. What I’ve found is, night-sights on service rifles that are closer to your eye on the rear sight have a tendency to blind you, and it completely washed everything out. I’d almost rather run a front-night-sight only, and just look over the rear sight, verses having the Tridium in the rear.
Pretty slick, gun is really heating up right now, I’m gonna try the gas cutoff valve up here, it should be single-shot now. See how it goes.
Ok, yeah. Alright. So, although you can shoot this thing single-shot live rounds,
it’s obviously meant to launch rifle-grenades, I don’t know that I would recommend it.
Alright. Now, stock folds to the side, you pinch it just like that, collapse to the side. All you gotta do is that. Now it doesn’t have a bolt hold-open device, got two more rounds left, so just like a standard AK, you’re gonna get that click.
[Two more shots, Click]
Click. That’s your clue that it’s time to reload the weapon. Hope you enjoyed it, SAKO M92S. Moonrock, here in the United States.
There are some asking what is “bump firing” on an AR15. So here’s the quick and dirty sort of lengthy explanation on Wiki:
Bump firing is the act of using the recoil of a semi-automatic firearm to fire shots in rapid succession, which simulates the feeling of a fully automatic firearm. This process involves bracing the rifle with the non-trigger hand, releasing the grip on the firing hand (leaving the trigger finger in its normal position in front of the trigger), pushing the rifle forward in order to apply pressure on the trigger from the finger, and keeping the trigger finger stationary.
During a shot, the firearm will recoil (“bump” back) and the trigger will reset as it normally does; then the non-trigger hand pulls the firearm away from the body and back to the original position, pressing the trigger against the stationary finger again, thereby firing another round when the trigger is pushed back.
This technique is usually used for entertainment, as the drawback of decreased accuracy eliminates any conceivable “tactical” advantage that might be gained. However when used in close proximity, the desired effect of many bullets hitting a target can easily be attained.
Now that you have an understanding of bump firing, see it in action here with Youtuber gal Lisa Jean.
Sources: Wikipedia, Lisa Jean Youtube, USAtacticalAmmo.com
[su_heading size=”30″]Rock ‘n’ Roll Time[/su_heading]
Considered one of the most popular counterbalance assault rifle ever developed, is also one of the most well sought after. So basically it means for those that want to shoot a fully automatic rifle with control recoil and accuracy, this is it.
Gas operated with a rotating bolt
Muzzle break up front
Bolt carrier comes to the rear a gas piston with a reciprocating rod goes forward. Hooked together by two gears or a cog, this is what stops the recoil.
Here’s another explanation of the recoil operation when compared to an AK-74 from Reddit Guns:
when the bolt moves back on a normal AK-74 (im using this because it uses the same round unlike the AK-47). the backwards movement actually absorbs some of the recoil and delays when the shooter feels it. newtons’s 2nd law. in order for the BCG to travel back the gun must feel a forward force, which reduces recoil. then when the spring pushes the BCG forward the gun feels a backward motion.
the upside of this is instead of all of the recoil hitting you in .02s (made up number) it hits you over .03s (made up number). so the impulse is the same, but the average force is lower. the downside of this is that it creates a push pull cycle that creates a cyclic movement of the muzzle. so instead of just applying one constant force to keep the muzzle still, the shooter needs to apply a constantly varying force to compensate for the change in the recoil’s force and the change in the gun’s overall center of gravity.
the AK-107 recoil system with the forward moving bolt basically does the opposite. higher force but very consistent. so it will kick a little harder. But the kick is consistent so you only need to apply 1 force constant force making it easier to keep on target (hence the increase in tested accuracy). Think about aiming something heavy, vs aiming something that vibrates.
[su_heading size=”30″]A Classic Machinegun from WWII[/su_heading]
This classic piece of weaponry shoots from the open bolt position with the capability of sending rounds down range on semi and fully automatic. If you’re not familiar with the STEN gun history, here’s the short scoop on it.
During WWII, the British needed a submachine gun similar to the U.S. Thompson machine gun, which they were buying from the U.S. But due to the demands because of great hardware loss. The British had to come up with a solution.
British Royal Arms factory came up with the STEN gun which was an easy design, easy to operate and quickly manufactured in huge quantity greatly helping the fight in WWII.
If you haven’t shot one, have a look at Hickok45 shooting it and taking it apart. This piece of weaponry is easy to operate from shooting to disassembling.
Hey, Hickok45 here, got some World-War 2 vintage stuff on the table. Hardware, 1911 and a thompson sub machine gun. I believe this one was carried through France and Germany, by two or three different soldiers in World War 2. Took good care of it, didn’t they? Look at that. Beautiful gun, beautiful gun. Haha, actually this is an Auto Ordinance, it’s not an original World War 2 Thompson, but it’s a nice one, isn’t it? Not nearly as pretty as this gun, though.
STEN gun, the British STEN. Beautiful gun, huh? Lookit that wood, look at that walnut grain, is that gorgeous or what? [laughing] Now this is about the British STEN and uh, this is an interesting firearm. We’re gonna take some shots with it, it will fire in semiauto or fully-auto. So. It’s a 9mm. Let’s see if it works, how’s that? I’ll put my ears on, whether it’s shooting fast or shooting slow, it will be loud. So, let’s do that. We have it on the fun switch right now, so let’s just play a little bit! Take a couple of shots at… Hey I see some clay pots! Wonder if I can hit those.
[Auto fire] [laughter]
[Auto fire] [laughter]
Aw is it empty already? Lookit that! That’s the problem with full-auto, let me grab this other magazine here. Haha. Oh man, I’m gonna take a couple more shots. Pull the bolt back. Alright. We’re in full-auto mode, let’s try a burst here on that propane tank.
Even though it’s full auto, you can get by with two or three shots if you want to, or you can get more out!
[much more fire]
[laughter] tried to get away from me!
Okay. oop, slipped the handle off, here somewhere. Let’s go, there we go. pretty cool, pretty cool. So, she’s empty. That is an interesting gun. You might have seen it verses a 55-gallon drum already, and so far we’ve had no issues with it. I think I might’ve pushed the button there on that stock, I don’t know. Very very interesting firearm with, of course, interesting history, because you know it’s all-auto action in world war 2, and even in Korea. Let’s take it over here, maybe we can take it apart and show you a little bit about it. I mean, it’s simple enough to blow up something with one, but I’d like to give you a little bit of information. I’m not an expert on these, but uh, pretty interesting.
The British were buying Thompsons-speaking of Thompsons- from us, and of course we entered the war, and the demand was great for those, and then from what I have read, the allies, the British lost a lot of allies, a lot of hardware. Small arms, large arms, and everything at dunkirk, and it just really hard-pressed needed firearms.
And they commissioned the Royal Arms factory over there to come up with something, and to more or less duplicate or replace the Thompson, and this is what they came up with. They needed something simple, something quick to produce, that would work, that’s functional. And the STEN pretty much served that perpose [laughter]. I was just joking, it’s really not that pretty- In a way, it’s a functional –you could consider it pretty, I guess– let’s let you take a look at how it works here.
So you push this button, and you slide the stock down -and that’s what happened over there a minute ago, I don’t know what went on with that- oh and then uh -we are clear, of course- If the bolt is forward, guess what. It’s [laughter] it’s going to probably be empty, because it fires from an open bolt, if you noticed, mkay. So it’s a different design, if you’ve never fired from open bolt. Even if I fired it semi-automatic, when I pull the trigger it shoots from right here, it fires from that configuration, the bolt’s gotta fall forward. So let’s releast the bolt, and let’s take the back out. You just take the handle off, you turn that about a quarter turn, take the spring out with this little cup and everything. How’s that for pretty cool?
And bring the bolt back, pull out on it -the bolt handle- and bring it back here, and you pull that out, right there, it’s a certain spot, just like the Scar 17. In fact, this gun is a lot like the Scar 17, isn’t it? Was that funny, or was that not funny? I told you I’m gonna be a comedian when I get old. Uh, and that’s the bolt. It only weighs about probably 40 pounds, that’s an incredible bolt, but it’s a blowback gun, you know, there’s no fancy gas systems or anything, and uh, that’s just a heavy bolt. As long as it’ll knock the bolt back, that’s all you need. And you can see right through there, it’s just a piece of tubing, with a barrel attached to it. I mean, John and I have made these in the barn several times. -No, just kidding, just kidding! Do not call the ATF, we would not do that.- But it does look like something you could almost put together in your garage. You know, like Steven Jobs could do, probably. If he hadn’t wasted his time making computers, he could’ve been coming up with one of these. See, it’s just really simple, let’s take this off the barrel, let’s see, this has to be down, you pull that out, move that around, take off the barrel shroud? D’you reckon it’s a barrel shroud? There we go. And there’s your barrel. Reminds me of an Uzi in that sense, the way it works, and I got the bolt out– y’know, there’s not much to it. It really doesn’t– it’s similar to the American Grease Gun, isn’t it? Really looks like a Grease Gun. Put a tube in it, take it to home depot, and there you are. You’re ready to go.
Just simple to manufacture, just stamped, with welds here and there, totally different from the Thompson. So they were able to produce quiite a few of these. I think around four million throughout the war. Then the germans later made something similar. So, lots of variations of it, and some of you know more about it than I do, but it is an interesting, interesting gun.
Now let’s put it back together, put the barrel back in, and the shroud back on there. You see these in the movies, don’t you? That’s what’s neat about things like this, this is actually a firearm that was used. And you can, they’re not cheap. We’re appreciative of Eric from NC Silencer, happened to be in the neighborhood again! He just drives by here every now and then, and he’ll have a truckload of firearms sometimes, so we’re glad he gets lost and ends up here. Of course, he has licenses for all this stuff, and we’re able to shoot it, so it’s pretty cool! Pretty cool. There we go. So that’s ready, I’m gonna put it forward, the bolt. Put the mainspring back in there. Always good to have that. And put the cap on. Really simple design. Don’t you just love something that’s simple and works? At least it seems to work. Stock back on. Isn’t that a beautiful stock? [laughs] Needs a walnut insert, doesn’t it?
And there you have it. Turn this back around. Ooh. You have to fire it from that position. Now I’m not putting –put my magazines back, that were magically reloaded somehow– magazines are gonna be loaded from the side, I’m not doing that just to look cool. Oh man. How’s that. That’s the way it operates, even though this spins around, that’s just for storage. Pull out on that -really tough to do- hat’s just for storing the gun. Doesn’t really– you cannot get the magazine up in there for enough, it just won’t work that way. So, not trying to be cool, it actually needs to fire from right there. One of these magazines is a little bit stiff, sticks a little more than the other one does.
Ok now the safety, in case you were gonna buy one of these at walmart or something, you need to know a little bit about it. Pull out the bolt, like I’ve done it before, just forgot myself there. Then you lock that in. That’s a pretty good safe, you can see, it’s pushed into there by the mainspring. So when you push the magazine in, you’ve got the rounds there, vicious looking rounds there and everything, ready to go, but pulling the trigger will not do anything. I’ll show you.
See, it will do no good. That’s not gonna fire. But that’s really the only safety that I can see on this thing. So you just gotta keep the bolt locked back. Alright, Pretty interesting gun, let’s take a few more shots with it, and… I know what to do! Since it does work semi-automatic as well, let’s put it on semiautomatic, we’ll take a couple shots with it, see if we can hit anything.
Now you’ll notice, see, again, though it’s semi-automatic, the bolt– bolt’s gotta fall, pick up the cartredge, and then fire it. [laughter] So all that has to happen when I pull the trigger. Alright, so, I’m not sure this’ll be a great four-hundred-yard precision rifle. Let’s uh, let’s try the gong. I believe I determined I need to shoot a little bit low. [FIRE, RING] There we go! Hit the gong! [Firing] and again! [firing] [laughter] let’s try those pigs over there. [firing] Alright. [more firing] alright! [firing] [laughter] Oh boy. Oh, I’ll really get brave, try the red plate. [firing] [laughter] So it will fire that way! In fact I’ll try a twelve-ouncer here. [muttering, firing] There we go. [more firing] [laughter] Let’s put it on full-auto. Ok. [sigh] Oh I know what I was gonna do! We’ve got a paper target here, we gotta get started putting those back on Ebay for some project after the Wounded Warriors fiasco, we kinda got away from doing that, so let’s just put some STEN rounds on that target! [Firing rapidly]
There you go! Alright! We’ll sign that dude, and you’ll see it on eBay! Oh, I’m out of ammunition! Let’s see if we have another magazine over here on the table. I should’ve had that in my tactical magpouch but I neglected to do it. So we’re still on full-auto, notice we’re on safe, that’s our safe, it’s a pretty good safe, it’s easy to see and it works. Let’s try this two-liter here, and the drum behind it. [Rapid fire] I’ll shoot another two-liter. [More rapid fire] [laughter] Uh-oh, I’m outta ammo. [Pistol shot] Ok. That’s why you carry a sidearm, ‘cuz you always want to be prepared. You never know, do ‘ya? So that is pretty neat. That is interesting. Again, the simplicity of it. Look at that, you know? Just that big ‘ol spring, looks like something you pick up at Wal-mart, doesn’t it? Just a big ‘ol spring, heavy bolt, and a tube of steel. With your welding holding it together. I wonder how long it took to make one of these things. They probably had it down to a science where it was– who knows? Just a couple hours, I don’t know. But they turned out a lot of them. Again, I think it was about four million. You know, when it comes to war, you’re in battle, chips are down, you need the firearms, the most important thing is that you have something that works. And it doesn’t matter whether it’s ugly, whether it has beautiful walnut or not, look at that front sight. I mean is that class or what? That’s something you think you could buy at Brownells to put on your 1911 or put on one of your other custom guns? [laughter] Man, that’s cool.
Hey, didn’t even know that magazine appeared over here. Well let’s take some more shots! What have we not shot? Oh we’ve got a few things that need working over, I think. I tell ‘ya I wouldn’t mind having one of these. Not bad– oop, you know what, I didn’t have– I should’ve had that bolt right there when I put the mag in. You watch me now, I mean my finger’s not on the trigger, but you wanna be plenty safe, here. Now we’re figing, just so you know, this is not special world-war-two ammo or anything, we’re firing a mixture of some of this, some Aguila and Winchester white box, we just discover that anything we put in this thing seems to work. It’s, I think it’s all been fifteen-grain ammo, but it seems to work. So uh, there’s apparently no need for any specialized ammo. Mkay. At least in this one. So. Who do I wanna shoot? I think I wanna just go down here and– let’s go ahead and shoot this watermelon. He needs to be shot. He really does. [rapid fire] [laughter] Mowed him down! Let’s go over here after these 12oz-ers here, I’m really not even gonna use the sights, just [rapid fire] maybe I should. [click] [laughter] Should use the sights. That’s the only problem with full-auto, got one round there– oh, we’ve got a couple more rounds! Definitely runs out early if you don’t get all your rounds fired. So let’s try that 2-liter down there, sitting on the stake. [Firing] There we go. Alright.
Now for those of you who have not fired a full-auto anything, it is fun, and of course holding it in one place even with nine-milimeter is not extremely easy. But by and large, a firearm like this, firing nine-milimeter, it’s not that hard to maintain. This has a cycle rate of about five-hundred rounds per minute. Now that doesn’t mean you can fire it for a full minute unless you have a magazine that’s about as long as from here to the gong. But that’s just how it’s rated on the rate of fire. If you had a magazine that long, you would get five-hundred rounds per minute. That’s relatively slow, you notice it said ‘poppoppoppoppop’, which makes it fun actually. There are other firearms that fire on full-auto that can crank ’em out twice that fast or more. And very difficult to hold on target, even at 9mm, so don’t make fun of the slow rate of fire of a firearm like this, there are some that are even slower, because it really does enhance your ability to keep it on target, and it makes it more fun, honestly. Alright, so, we’ve got a few more targets right here that are desperate to be shot! And we’ll keep it on full-auto. I mean, we have to, don’t we.
Alright. We’ll get that two-liter and the cowboy and the pizza-pan! Anything that’s in the way! [firing] Ha! Shot the target over. I know what to do with the last rounds in this mag, let’s see– I’m gonna put ’em on that tombstone, let’s see if I can hold ’em on there, on the tombstone. [rapid fire] Ok! I think most of them did, honestly, I was actually using the sight a little bit.
So. British STEN gun. Pretty cool gun, you would call it ugly, probably, I– maybe? But the thing has functioned. We’ve had really no major errors with it, couple of things, maybe, I’m not sure, maybe I did something, but by and large the thing has worked, and I don’t know if you have one or you know a lot about them, if there are any other peculiarities that you notice with your friends or people that have them, but they seem to be pretty functional, and operate pretty well.
Tell you what, that’s the kind of thing you could carry around, and you could take the stock off, put it in your pouch, couldn’t you? Not a lot of trouble. And there you’ve got a select-fire 9mm. Pretty cool, pretty cool. Kinda like the grey finish and everything. S’nice. So, British STEN. Saw extensive use in WWII and even in Korea, and at the Hickok compound, actually, today, right? So uh, glad you all could come on out, and have some fun with me and help us enjoy this interesting piece of history, and kind of a different 9mm, right? So, life is good, do I have to tell ‘ya? [Slow-mo firing]
In the world of military small arms, many would argue that the most significant one in the last century is the Sturmgewehr. Though it is not known as the first assault rifle (Federov Rifle) but, it is the first most practical assault rifle used by the Germans during WWII.
This baby shoots a 7.9mm and can shoot on semi and full automatic. The Sturmgewehr may be one of the best firearm to shoot on fully automatic (in burst), because it has better control of the muzzle compared to the Grease gun. The magazine holds 30 rounds, but advised to use only 25. Has a tendecy to malfunction due to the mag movement (sway front and back) with the round nose diving forward positioned while in the mag. However, for tactical usage it was the perfect weapon for the intermediate engagement ranges (50 – 200 yards).
This is one of Larry Vickers favorite classic weapon to test and fire. See the footage below.
Hey, Larry Vickers here and I’m gonna take you through one of my favorite weapons of all time: The Sturmgewehr. This particular one’s MP 43-marked, and it was made in 1944. It’s an all-matching transferrable Sturmgewehr. Now, technically speaking, the first assault rifle was the Federov, however for all intents and purposes, the assault rifle as we know it, the first practical one fielded, was this bad boy right here, by the germans, in the hundreds of thousands in World War Two.
The Sturmgewehr is chambered in 7.92 kurz. Otherwise known as 7.92×33, or 8mm short. It’s a true Intermediate assault rifle caliber, in-between a 9×19 and a 7.92×57 full-size rifle caliber. In addition, it’s select-fire, capable of safe, semi, and fully-automatic.
I’ve shot this gun quite a bit, I’ve taken it to different classes, matter of fact the most popular video on the Sturmgewehr on the Internet is one that we did way back in the day on Tactical Impact. So I’ve learned a few things about it, I’m gonna take you through it.
First off, in my opinion, you wanna use original magazines in a Sturmgewehr. This is a world-war-two era magazine, this particular one is an MP44-marked, I’ve tried one of the later reproduction magazines, and it hasn’t worked nearly as well. Also, thirty-round mag, but I only load mine to twenty five. The reason being, you get that little nose-dive situation with the follower in the spring combination, and combined with the fact the way the magazine is held in the gun; in an M16-style mag-release, means you get this forward-and-back rocking situation right here. That combined with that nosedive situation I alluded to, and that means above twenty-five rounds the gun can shut down on you. May be the byproduct of the fact that it’s an old magazine and needs fresh springs, but I tend to believe it’s kinda inherent in the design.
Also, you notice how long the magazine is, so when you go prone, you can see why toward the end of the war when the germans were looking at the STG45, they went with a much lower 15-round magazine.
Dust cover right here is the one that the M16 copied; of course the M16 copy flips down verses flips up on the Sturmgewehr. One plus that this gun would have is if the sight radius was much longer, they bring the sight to the rear, make it a peep sight, you do that, and that would change the game on this thing. Also if you had any kind of a rail interface on the top like the FG42 did in WW2, and you have the ability to mount an optic on the top, would make a big difference. They did have an optic rail on some Sturmgewehrs that mounted on the side like a G43, but those are relatively rare.
Now, I’m gonna take you through some features of the design. First off, make sure the gun’s clear. It has an HK-style pushpin right here to rear. Matter of fact, that’s where the HK got it, was the Sturmgewehr. You push it to the side -just kinda set it over here- and now you just wiggle the buttstock off and the spring is in the buttstock. That was one of the weaknesses of the design. The spring is in the buttstock, so if the buttstock got damaged, or whatever the case may be, it’d shut the gun down. As a matter of fact, I’ve seen pictures late in the war of GIs and Soviets who wanted to deactivate Sturmgewehrs by breaking the buttstock, and the gun is out of commission.
Take the spring out, take off the buttstock, notice the trigger-group pivots down. And it’s riveted in place, so a gunsmith would have to take it off, unlike later with HK where they took the exact same concept, but they put a pushpin on it. Now trigger mechanism-wise, it has a real unique feature that really was largely lost after the war. Not many guns incorporated it at all. The safety selector’s on this side, and pivots down to allow you to fire the gun, but you select semi-automatic vs. fully-automatic with a cross-bolt. Actually, from an end-user point of view, pretty slick design. However, it did make for a more complex trigger mechanism, and if you shoot ’em a lot, these things have a tendency to break on you, like our good friends out at Battlefield Vegas found out.
Alright, now, the Trunnion, where the bolt locks into, is in this portion of the receiver right here, and it’s actually pinned in place, and the sheet metal is stamped and rolled around it. It’s entirely different than what the soviets did later with the AK series where the rotating bolt locked into a trunnion up front. In this case this is critical because the tilting bolt locks into the trunnion right here.
Now you’ll notice right here, you have some gas vents on the gas tube; that’s one of the reasons in combination with the fact that the hand guard is made out of metal, one of the reasons why when you shoot a Sturmgewehr, you really need gloves, because in the course of just one magazine, the gun gets very hot. And that’s why you’ll see guys shooting them, or even videos of World War Two soldiers grabbing them by the magazine. Nowhere near as controllable than grabbing the gun around the forend, but this puppy gets really hot on you, fast.
…Pushpin back in… Alright, getting ready to go hot here. Now, the gun’s kind of a mix of left-handed and right-handed friendly. The charging handle and the mag release are right-hander friendly, not really left-hander friendly at all; however, I would argue the trigger mechanism is left-hander friendly. It’s easy for a left-hander to manipulate the fire control, and then the mode selector, the push selector, on this, very easy for a left-hander to manipulate. So, right-hander friendly charging handle, mag release; left-hander friendly safety selector, fire mode selector. Alright, put on my eyes and ears, it’s time to go hot.
Alright, remember you wanna do your push-pull, make sure that magazine’s all the way in, we’re ready to go hot here.
Full auto, baby.
No bullet-hold-open device, of course, time to reload this thing and do a little bit more full-auto for you. Great gun to shoot, real soft shootin’ regardless, especially in this caliber and this weight of a gun, but on full-auto it is a pussycat to shoot. One of the most controllable assault rifles I’ve shot, bar none.
You would have to say, that in the world of military small arms, I would argue the most significant one in the last century is the Sturmgewehr. After WWII, all major nations adopted an assault rifle. Now the US was fairly late to it, many kinda beat us to the punch, but eventually we picked up the M16, which is a classic assault rifle, we’ve been running with it ever since. The Soviets learned a lesson real quick, ‘cuz they faced these on the eastern front, and they adopted the AK47, and they adopted the Kalashnikov ever since. In terms of significant military small arms, it’s hard to think of one that tops the Sturmgewehr. Hope you’ve enjoyed it.