Breaking Leather while in the Vehicle

There’s more to it than Drawing your Pistol in a Vehicle

Just a Note: The following topic is talked about in small groups of CCW carriers that are defensive minded and it involves gunfights while in a vehicle. Many people have written about it and we’re not the first.Take this article as a grain of salt. By all means take every tactical courses of fire that you can to learn about it first hand.

Drawing a pistol while in a vehicle is nothing new. The perspective from this is for the private Joe. Not from a contractor conducting exec-protection for a VIP or as a response force member for a nuclear convoy. Just you getting into your vehicle going to the store down the road.
There are many great readings on this, such as this one from Guns and Ammo. Matter of fact Kyle Lamb(author) goes into the intricacies of drawing but with the seat belt on.

I gotta admit thats another take on the subject, but it is also true that most of us do wear a seat belt while driving. Kyle goes into the different draws based on the type of carrier that you are and what can slow your draw down.

(Lukas Lamb photo)

What about the Pocket Pistol Carrier?
As you can see appendix carry is the fastest method to draw from in this illustration. Obviously, a quicker way if you were aware with the ability to see the future before the Sh!# hits the fan, is to have the pistol already out.
Which comes to mind another minority group of concealed carriers, they are the pocket pistol carrier.
This of course can be even more of a challenge to get your p shooter out. Struggling to get your hands into your pocket and fumbling to get a grip of the gun to pull it out.

If you’re the die-hard pocket pistol carrier, no worries there are special pants that caters to your needs. The special pants with specialize pockets with easy access can quicken your draw time. Something like this from CCW Breakaways, their pockets are designed to be a pocket holster. Breaking leather, in this case is breaking pockets that makes it easy to get to your pistol safely.

Which carry is best for a Vehicle?
I am not going to try and commando this keyboard to tell you that X is better to use than Y. The short answer is have the pistol out and ready, but be sure it can be quickly accessed. This can be from your crotch, secret bat compartment, the crevice between the door and your seat, etc.. You decide and play with that.

Last if you want more information from that have trained people from all sorts of background. Look into Craig Douglas of ECQC, Tony Blauer of Blauer Tactical Systems, Matt Graham of Graham Combat. They cover everything from gunfights while engaged in a vehicle to extreme close quarter where you can smell the bad guy/gal’s bad breath. Just to give you an idea of extreme close=quarter, here’s a fight in a vehicle that involves a pistol. Btw, its a female thats defending against the male passenger.

Holster for Sig P365

The P365 pistol is one of the best micro 9mm out on the market. A popular way to concealed carry is with an IWB (Inside the Waist Band) holster. The P365 can also be carried with a special inside pocket holster. One of the best one on the market is made by CCW Breakaways. Called Skintight holster. Specially developed for compact pistol with single and double stack mags.

The Skintight holster main purpose is to prevent “accidental discharge”.

This inside-the-pocket holster uses a hard inner core thermo formed Kydex with a soft tacky outer skin. The inner core covers the trigger guard entirety and holds it shape, alloing you to smoothly draw (& reholster) the pistol.
This keeps the finger on the frame as the gun is removed from the Skintight and clears the pants pocket. The tacky outer skin keeps the 1-ounce Skintight in the pouch during the draw. The shape of this special holster reduces printing.

The wearing of the Skintight holster provides deep concealment, easy access and comfort. The Sig P365 pistol does not slip out of the holster when shifted to the down grip position. With the outer tacky material this prevents the pistol from jumbling around.

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Wear & Tear
If you take your personal defense serious, then you probably will practice drawing your pistol. So a quick word on wear and tear. As of this writing no timeline has been determine when the holster deteriorate. Even if you wear the top of the line Shapeshifter IWB.

Multi-Purpose Carry
The Skintight holster can be rigged to carry not just in your pant pocket but also in your jacket, fanny pack, inside the vehicle and even rig it into your “get out & dodge bag”.

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Concealed Carry Jeans Reviews

Here is what its like to Pocket Carry with CCW Breakaways Jeans

Concealed carry is a popular way to carry and many are using a variety of holster on the waistband for IWB and OWB. There is a small group within the CCW crowd that pocket carry. Obviously, these are smaller handguns than the medium to full size. According to Crime Prevention Research, there are 17 million CCW official permits but in reality only 2.4% that actually carry.
Pocket carry is another small percentage from this 2.4 percent that conceal carry. Irregardless, pocket carry has become an alternative carry method, a back-up to your primary sidearm. In this segment we will only address the micro 9mm pistol, which is the most popular carry among the CCW crowd.

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There are many advantages and disadvantages when choosing to pocket carry. The advantage is that it is a convenient way of concealing the pistol. Depending on the size of your pocket, the pistol can be stored in the pocket with ease, unless you’re wearing the tight slim fitting jeans. Concealment is easier when compared to using an OWB or even IWB holster. Another feature is the comfort level of wear, which is very comfortable.

On the flip side, there is a limit to the size of the pistol which can be carried in the pocket. The pistol is liable to be flipped around which can be a safety issue when you pull the pistol out and accidentally put your finger in the trigger.
The time to draw the pistol for personal defense can be troublesome if you’re not familiar with your pants pocket. Is the pocket top open or from the side? These things can affect your response time to draw a pistol.

So whats the answer to the negative of pocket carry?
Simple answer is to get a reliable IWB or OWB holster from Alien Gear. But what about for those that do pocket carry?

Solutions to overcome the Negatives
Prevent Accidental Discharge – First to look at is the actual pocket holster that prevents accidental discharge. You need to have an inside-pocket holster design for this. There are many holsters out on the market but a very good one to consider is one called the SkinTight inside-the-pocket holster from CCW Breakaways.
This holster uses a hard inner core of thermo formed Kydex with a soft, tacky outer skin. The inner core covers the trigger guard entirely and holds its shape, allowing you to smoothly draw the gun while keeping the trigger finger out of the trigger area during the draw. CCW Breakaways website has a current list of compatible guns.
Single Stack’s Tested:

  • Glock 43, 43X, 42
  • Sig P365, P938
  • Ruger LC9 and EC9
  • S&W Shield
  • Kimber EVO
  • Mossberg MC1sc
  • Kahr CW9, PM9
  • Springfield XD(s)
  • Walther PPS
  • Double Stack’s tested:
  • Glock 26, 27
  • SCCY CPx-1
  • Taurus G2c

  • You can get it here.

    Pocket Sizes
    We mentioned earlier that pocket sizes can hinder the size of the pistol that you carry. Yes, you can overcome this by wearing bigger pants with big pockets, but thats not a realistic choice for most of us. Unless, you’re the legendary Chicago lawman Frank Pape who had custom tailored extra pockets in his clothing wear. He’s been known to carry 4 pistols on himself.

    Enter CCW Breakaways – CCW Breakaways design their concealed carry pants for pocket carry. Their pockets were design to be a holster. The pockets sizes can be altered to fit some of the medium size pistols. Some have claim to fit a full size 1911 pistol.

    The pockets are deep with snaps hidden underneath the belt-line flap, that can be popped open to make more space while pulling the pistol out.
    Whats unique about this pocket holster is that the interior pouch design to position the pistol on top of the thigh (inner). This placement keeps it from giving that “tell-tale” sign that you’re packing heat.
    This specially design pocket orient the pistol pointed down and stays in the same position while you move about. Which allows the user to reach in and grab the pistol by the grip not by the barrel.

    CCW Breakaways offers a variety of selections of pants to choose from. Now be warned, these line of pants are not to replicate the popular 5.11 or other tactical wannabe wardrobe.

    These pants were meant to blend in with what you wear for work or play. Blending in while discreetly packing an equalizer. The selections of pants are “Docker” style khakis, jeans, shorts and even cargo pants.

    My Experience with CCW Breakaways Jeans & Cargo Pants
    I was fortunate to try out their jeans and black cargo pants with several different pocket 9mm pistols. (Hellcat, Sig P365 and Glock26) My test was not about to see how fast I can draw my pistol out to engage targets. But more so for the reality of pocket carrying at work or out at the mall. This was all about how comfortable it was to actually pocket carry vs wearing a IWB (inside-the-waistband) holster.
    Having worn IWB holster for many years, I can recollect, I had to get used to it. Which meant the feel of the hard object at my lower back or appendix position. So while wearing these high-speed concealed carry jeans, it was truly a different feeling.
    There was no pinch or any discomfort at my mid torso. CCW Breakaways special pocket (holster) does a great job of securing the position of the pistol at the front of my thigh. You do feel the weight of the pistol but nothing discomforting.
    Throughout my 12 hours per day of wear consisted of sitting while working on the computer (approx 8 hours), walking, squatting and even getting underneath my car to loosen my oil lug nut for draining.
    There was no breaking in the pants besides from adjusting the pocket to accommodate the size of the pistol. The comfort experience is a five star along with the practical wear of the pants!

    Accessing the Pistol
    Earlier I had mentioned I wasn’t going to test to see how fast I can draw the pistol out to engage targets. Which is true, but, I did test the accessibility. All that means is was it really easy to get to the pistol to draw? This was not a timed event with a timer like you see in 3 gun competition.
    I just reached into the pocket to get the pistol out. Here are some of the things that I encountered:

    • Standing Position
      Accessing and drawing the pistol out was a breeze while under no stress. The position is similar to the appendix carry but much easier access without removing outer garment. The jeans pocket opening (from the top) provided an easier access than the cargo pant pocket. Cargo pants pocket opening were from the side. Does it really matter? Who knows, just my input for economy of motion while reaching in without thinking and looking at the pocket as you reach and draw.
      This position is also the best to defend during a weapons retention encounter. With this deep concealment the bad guy won’t expect that you have an equalizer.

      CCW Breakaways pocket can be enlarge by breaking open the tabs at the top to facilitate the size of the pistol during the draw. Personally for me, I did not need to pop open the pocket during the draw for both of these pants.
    • Seated Position

      Drawing from a seated position is still easy, but is it still accesible from a vehicle? A small and large vehicle. At first thought of drawing from a vehicle may seem to be a breeze, but when I did this from my small Toyota Corolla. It wasn’t a big challenge but for someone of bigger stature, your results might be different in terms of the time you actually get the pistol out while in the vehicle.
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      I did not have problem getting the pistol out, but I did feel it was slower than from the standing position. Did I need to pop open the pocket more to get the pistol out, this was on varying occasion while doing it. One thing that I did noticed was that from this squatted seated position in a small vehicle, your pant belt obscured the opening. Without the belt it was much easier to pop open the tabs.
    • A note on Seated Position Access
      Seated position of your hips and thighs on a regular chair is about 90 degrees. Where in a smaller vehicle the seating position is near 70 degrees. While seated the side pocket opening from the docker pants was much easier to access than the front opening from the jeans.
      This also applies to vehicles as well. However, in a truck or mid size SUV there are more leg and arm space to work with than a smaller vehicle.

    Parting Thoughts
    If you want to truly feel the comfort and enjoy the high level of concealment for pocket carry. Many of CCW Breakaways customers initially were skeptical about the pants, but after trying them out they walked away with positive outlook of the pants.
    The discreetness is another under look feature that is highly valuable to blending in with other clothing for work or play. Get a pair of CCW Breakaways pants to find out. There is more to it than to read about the comfort, you need to actually wear one to fully understand what we’re talking about.

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