In this segment on precision long range shooting conducted by Larry Vicker and spotted by Walt Wilkinson of Gunsite. They will be pushing the range limits on the Lapua 338. Though the video states debunking myths on long range shooting, the results is what is significant.
Larry will be using a 338 Lapua/250 grain bullet with Schmidt&Bender scope, Atlas bipod and with a Armament suppressor. A fact that most long range shooter understands when shooting out to beyond 1000 yards the bullet starts to drop like a rainbow. Thats due to (getting a little technical here) the environmental factors of temperature and barometric pressure. So to overcome this is to run the math in a ballistic app. That’s the reason why they say a grouping at 1500 yards should be at fifteen inches group, where at closer range your groupings could be at 5 inches.
The un-suppressed rifle starts out at 300 yards for zeroing and pushes out to 2500 and outer space to see where the rounds go. For the 338 Lapua with the 20 inch barrel the drop off point was at 1470 yard. The bullet is tumbling, yawing, spinning out of control and would land in a group size of a Volkswagen.
From here its back to the 1313 yards where the gun was in the zone with a suppressor attached. Suppressed Lapua had no problem hitting steel targets at 1313 and 1470 yards, but lost it at 1583 yards.
Un-Suppressed with a 338 Lapua
Suppressed with a 33 Lapua (Suppressor has given it more velocity)
You can skip to these times to view the shooting at 8:50 (1082 yd), 9:26 (1313 yd), 13:35 (suppressed 1470yd).
Ok, the gun I’m using this year out at Gunsite in the season 2 long-distance episode is an Accuracy International AX 338 Lapua, provided to me by my good friend Randy Pennington at Mile High Shooting Accessories in Denver Colorado. Randy reached out after he saw what we did last year on the show, offered up a gun for Season 2, and it turns out, he’s a Vietnam vet with a service-related disability. Really good guy. And what I consider the best one-stop shop for high-end sniper rifles and accessories in the country. This entire gun was decked out by Mile High shooting accessories. Let me take you through it.
They are the exclusive distributor for Suppressed Armament Systems, which was the suppressor that came with the gun, has a 20-inch barreled AX, the base rifle 338 Lapua, a Schmidt and Bender scope which he supplies, I actually got this particular one in flat dark earth from Mark Cromwell at Schmidt & Bender USA, this is one of the exact scopes that they’re sending to SOCOM for the PSR program. The 5-25 PM2 is the gold standard for long-distance shooting now, and this is the scope that was actually chosen by the shooters of SOCOM before the rifle was chosen. That’s how good of a piece of kit this is.
The Spur mount was supplied by Mile High, they’re one of the spur distributors of the States. Excellent mount, has a leveling bubble in the bottom, clamps on very solidly, unlike the gun we had last year.[Flashback cameraguy] Woah, we’re F***.
Now it’s a tactical sling as you know, you can run the adjustment on it in and out as need be, or you can actually cuff up, pinch down on your arm, and then use this as a support as a standard service rifle sling. It’s one of the many factors in why that sling was adopted by the Marine Corps, as the recommended sling for the M16-M4 family.
Ok TacTV fans, I’m out here at Long Range Ridge with my good buddy Walt Wilkinson, Sargeant Major retired, we’ve known each other for a long time; Walt’s a staff instructor here at Gunsite, and one of the most dialed-in gun guys that I know; and a world champion 50-caliber thousand-yard shooter. He is obviously the guy that I want to tap into for long-range shooting. Now I’ve brought out a 338 AI gun, and you’ve got your Steyr here, correct?[Walt] Yes I do, my HS50. [Larry] I guess we’ll confirm zeroes and we’ll get out here and start shootin’ some targets at distance.
Walt, I know you’ve told me this before, but remind me, when did you get into long-range shooting?[Walt] Back in Ohio in Highschool, alright, you know the groundhog thing, all over the place, me and my friends got into long-range groundhog shooting right there. We progressed through the 25016 up into our first precision guns once I got into the service and was able to make a little bit of money, with a Remington 40XB and 7mm Remington magnum. [Larry] Now remember, you’re an old boy like me, you bought that at Advanced Shooting supplies in Columbus. [Walt] That’s correct. Me and my buddy got consecutive serial numbers, single-shot 40XBs. [Larry] Good deal. Now, we’ve talked about a variety of things off-camera here, when it comes to long-range shooting, everything kinda changes at a thousand, right? [Walt] That is correct, once you get to that range, the bullet is dropping like a rainbow, so small problems in your calculations equal a lot, alright? So the environmental factors of temperature and barometric pressure really affect the bullet, and you’ve got to really either run the math, or have your dope book set up so that you know what the bullet’s gonna do at different temperatures. And then of course, the answer to the problem nowadays is the ballistic computer. [Larry] Absolutely. Now, we know you’re a world champion 50 cal, what else do you shoot with? [Walt] I compete with the 308, because I think that’s the best round really to train with, I’m not using one of the supercalibers there. The long-range matches, I use the 338 Lapua, going out to 2250 there, and then of course I shoot the practical 600-yard matches and the 1000-yard match with my Steyr HS50. [Larry] And one of the refreshing things about some of the stuff we talked about, is you don’t buy into the perpetuated myth of the sub-MOA accuracy in terms of the ammo-shooter-gun combination. [Walt] That’s one of the hard things that a lot of the students come out here, and they want every single group to be a half-inch or so. And that’s not gonna be the case, alright. Some people will claim that, you know, when they shoot, that one-time quarter-inch group, that now their rifle is a quarter MOA rifle, and they don’t. No, the stars just aligned, and you got the bullets to go into the same area in a tight group. A one-MOA gun, that’s what you’re looking for. And we always have to explain that to the students, whatever range we’re at. You know, at three hundrd, this is a perfect group, alright. And at four hundred, this is a perfect group. You’re doing fine, don’t get all frustrated. In most cases, with the environment, environmental changes and the ammunition and the rifle put together, a one MOA group is really what you should expect. [Larry] So if you’re shooting to 1500, it’s a fifteen-inch group. [Walt] It’s a fifteen-inch group. It’s an excellent group at that range, because the environment really starts to come into play there. [Larry] Good deal. Well I can tell you, last season we had a blast with our mile shot. By your standards it was, you know, it was rather crude, per se. But this season, I want to tap into a real subject matter expert, and look into the science, and debunk some of the myths behind shooting at long range. You’ll be firing up your fifty, I’ll be firing up my 338, we’ll have a great ****in time. [Walt] I think we will. And we certainly have the facilities here to do that. [Larry] You’ve got that right.
We’re up here at Long-range ridge, my buddy Walt Wilkinson’s spotting for me, and we’re dialing in my AI AX 338 with Schmidt & Bender 5-25 on top of it. Walt helped me get zeroed in at a hundred, then we confirmed it at 300 on the woodfield range, and now we’re stretching it out to eight, nine-hundred, a thousand, different steel targets, and he’s calculating the come-ups, so when in theory we could be on the first shot or the second shot at most; and by-and-large, it’s been right on the money.[Walt] Ok, I’m gonna give you your wind-holes in mils, alright, so figure out what they are. [Larry] It looks like incriments of ten, and then five, but in the center crosshair, only out to ten on each side; north-south-east-west. [Walt] Ok, so- [Larry] So I can swag five. [Walt] Two, five, seven, that kind of thing? [Larry] Yeah. [Walt] When you’re ready, let me know, it’s the small square one, third one from the right. [Larry] I’m ready. [Walt] Ok. Favor right. [Bang] [Walt] Looked like windage was good, just underneath. [Larry] Yep. [Walt] Ok, dial up point-five. So now we’ve come up point-five, six-point-two. That’s what we should be up right now, eight eighty-two. Lemmy know when you’re ready, shooter. [Larry] I’m ready. [Walt] Favor right. [Shot]…Clang. [Larry] Yep. [Walt] Can’t ask for more ‘n that. [Larry] Nope. [Walt] I think it hit. Just off the cross, upper-left-hand quadrant of it. [Larry] Mkay. [Walt] Alright, we’re gonna move to the thousand-eighty-two, two targets left. [Larry] The one with the crosshair on it? [Walt] Correct. [Larry] I… am ready. [Walt] Right edge. [Bang] [Walt] Right edge, you hit below the center just a little bit, though it looks pretty good. Tell me when you’re ready. [Larry] Ready. [Walt] Right edge. [Bang] [Walt] Clang. Trace said maybe just a little bit below center. Okay, moving. Thirteen-thirteen. [Larry] That’s in that open field? [Walt] Yeah, to the left, the two that are together, tall and short. [Larry] I’m ready. [Walt] Right edge. [Bang] [Walt] OH! [Larry] He f***in skedaddled! [Walt] Almost got ‘im dude! There was a jackrabbit behind the target I was tryin’ to get. [Larry] Yeah! High left! [Walt] Come down point-four, we should at least get in there. [Larry] Alright. [Walt] Tell me when you’re ready. [Larry] I… am ready. [Walt] Right. Point-five. [Bang] [Walt] There we go. OK, we know we can pound out to that. Now we’re gonna stretch. [Larry] Alright.
Right now, the 338’s doing great, we’re gonna use a Blackhills 250-grain. Mile High shooting and accessories hooked me up with the gun. We’re at 1300 now, we’re trying to push farther, and by all accounts, with a twenty-inch barrel, we’re gonna start running into challenges, so we’ll see how it shakes.[Walt] Let’s see what that little 20-inch barrel is capable of. [Larry] Alright. [Walt] It’s lightening up pretty good for us, not a problem, Mirage is not an issue. [Larry] I’m ready. [Walt] Right, point-three. [Bang] [Walt] YES. I love it when I can see the bullet. [Larry] How’d that shake? [Walt] It’d be a fifteen-inch group. Dial up point-four for me. [Larry] Nineteen-eight. [Walt] Nineteen-point-eight. Ok. Getting less wind up at altitude, most of it’s on the ground. So tell me when you’re ready. [Larry] I am ready. [Walt] Right edge. [Bang] [Walt] Just off the right edge. So we’ll make the adjustment, we don’t care what’s going on. Tell me when you’re ready. [Larry] I am ready. [Walt] Favor left. Favor left. [Bang] [Larry] Oh. Yeah, I saw that. [Walt] Guess what. [Larry] Yeah. [Walt] We may have found that point in the world where that thing’s gonna start dropping off. We just hit one point too low. In the last one we were hitting dead on, ok. [Larry] Yeah. [Walt] Let’s try that again. Top, left-hand corner of the target. [Larry] Got it. [Walt] Watch your reticle. [Bang] [Larry] Yeah. You’re right. [Walt] We have reached that point. So at this point here, we’ve now gone down below the speed of sound, and the crossing back through the sound barrier, the bullet ends up having issues, and will start tumbling, spinning, and yawing and everything else. So we have definitely reached that point. We didn’t reach it out at thirteen-thirteen, but now at 1470, we’re there. [Larry] Well my world-class spotter-slash-ballastician Walt has figured it out– this gun is basically good to go out to 1313 on steel, but now we just tried just shy of 1500, and it’s a no-go. The group size down there is probably the size of a Volkswagon. [Walt] It’s gettin’ big, yeah. [Larry] And so what we’re gonna do now, we’re gonna back it back down to the zone where we know we can get good hits, we put the suppressor on it that Mile High shooting and accessories supplied with the gun, we’re gonna see what kinda hits we get with the same data we had unsuppressed. [Walt] Sounds like a plan.
Larry, you ready?[Larry] I’m ready. [Walt] Wind has shift…ed. [Larry] Yeah it has, I can tell. [Walt] Left edge. [Bang] …Clang. [Larry] WOOOOW. [Walt] I’m gonna say that it hit… [Larry] In the upper-left quadrant? [Walt] Yep, right in there. That, that was impressive, you know, to go add that suppressor and then have no real point of impact shift at that range. [Larry] At thirteen-hundred? [Walt] Yeah. [Larry] I’m very impressed. [Walt] Yeah. You gonna try, go back out to 1470? Alright. Here we go. Dial nineteen-eight. [Larry] Alright. [Walt] Larry, you ready? [Larry] Yeah I’m ready. [Walt] Give me left edge. [Bang] [Larry] Wow. [Walt] It hit… center… low. So, with that in mind, larry, come up point three. [Larry] ‘Kay. [Walt] Let’s see what happens. Point-three would give us twenty point one, correct? [Larry] 20.1 [Walt] 20.1 and that’s the suppressed one. Tell me when you’re ready. [Larry] I’m ready. [Walt] Alright, focus on the reticle, I can’t stress that enough. Left edge. [bang] [Larry] I’ll be ****. [Walt] I’m gonna say that hit center, low. That laid waste. The suppressor’s given it more velocity and we’re getting there. [Larry] Well the guy got Randy Pennington, the guy that sent it to me, from Mile High, said that most people, once they start shooting these suppressed, they’re shooting suppressed all the time. I am genuinely impressed with that exact same hit with that exact same dope at 1313 with the suppressor on it. Basically it hit a man at 1300 meters with exactly the same dope, suppressor on and suppressor off. That’s very impressive.
Ok now we shot the gun 1470 with the suppressor on and we got hits that we previously did not get any hits on unsuppressed. Now we’re gonna see where it falls off the edge of the cliff, so to speak, and push it another hundred yards or so, to just shy of sixteen-hundred yards.[Walt] Ok. 1583, alright, I want you to dial 21.7. 21.7. It works out to about a mil and a half for that next hundred yards. [Larry] Got it. [Walt] We’re getting out there, now. Focus on the reticle, tell me when you’re ready. [Larry] I’m ready. [Walt] Left, point-three. [Bang] [Larry] Oh. About where the crosshair was at. [Walt] Just out there. Tell me when you’re ready. [Larry] I am ready. [Walt] Favor left. [Bang] [Larry] Nah. [Walt] Unobserved. [Larry] Yeah. Outer space. [Walt] That’s not really good, because that was point-seven lower. [Larry] Yeah. [Walt] Than where we hit before. Larry give me another one. [Larry] ‘Kay. [Walt] We’ll make an adjustment off that. Tell me when you’re ready. [Larry] Ready. [Walt] Let me have the upper left-hand corner of the target. [Bang] [Larry] That’s it. [Walt] Not only is it hard to spot out at that range, but yeah, we just had a half-mil shift between those two. Yeah. So. [Larry] We were able to hold it together at fourteen-somethin’, but… [Walt] So that is definitely– that is the threshhold of everything that– the suppressor gave us that extra one-hundred. Yeah. And when we added a hundred, we lost it. [Larry] Makes sense.
Sources: Vickers Tactical, Gunsite, TacTV
Posted in Long Guns Tagged with: 20 inch barrel AX, 338 Lapua, 50 Cal BMG Bolt gun, Armament Suppressor, Atlas bipod, Black Hill 250 grains, Blue Force Gear Tactical Sling, Gunsite, H550, Larry Vicker, Long Range Precision, Mile High Shooting Accessories, TacTV, Walt Wilkinson
TAC-TV Crew (Dave) and Vickers Tactical went to the Gunsite training facility in Northern Arizona to debunk some classic small arms myths including this one on firearm over-lubrication. From their observations of people that they have trained in the law enforcement and military groups all commented that “too much lube was not good”. With that being taught by other schools this may be the reason why most people don’t lube their weapon enough, the assumption was that with too much grease, it can jam up your weapon, attract too much dirt or sand, this was being taught at all level.
So TAC-TV and Larry setup this test to debunk this myth. They place an M9 pistol and DDM4 (AR15) in a large plastic container and filled it with regular car oil, the whole canister. All the weapons were soaked and when pulled out of the oil container, its like oil slog every where. Larry goes onto firing the M9 and DDM4 without a hitch. So much for the myth.
Larry and Dave both agreed “under lubrication or improper lubrication” is the cause of most weapon malfunction. The reason for the serious pet peeve of keeping the weapon lubed is that it can save your life.
Larry: Ok, we’ve got another Firearms myth for you, and this is one that’s near and dear to our heart. It’s the myth of over-lubrication. One that we run into everywhere we go. Dave, give me your thoughts on the subject.
Dave: Well this has surprised me more than anything in training, and it doesn’t matter who it is, law enforcement, military; students either have no lubrication or improper lubrication on the weapons, which– well, one of the questions is ‘well, where do I lube it and how much?’
Larry: Yeah, ‘how much’
Dave: And they’re always afraid of over-lubrication.
Larry: Because they’ve been taught that you can lube it too much and it’ll track sand, and you’re better off with no lube or very little lube and whatnot. As we know, that’s a myth, and we’re gonna prove that to you. So, that being the case, I’ve got some lube here…
Dave: Larry, what are you doing there. This is TacTV, and you always do it bigger and better. So, we’re going to make sure that we over-lube the weapons.
Larry: Alright, bro. Straight up.
Larry: Aw yeah dog.
Dave: I brought my lube.
Larry: That’s what I’m talkin’ about.
Dave: Let me know when you think it’s been over-lubed. [dumping a large jug of lube directly onto the weapons]
Larry: You know what, go ahead and finish ‘er off, Dave.[Dave dumps the entire jug into the pan of weapons]
Larry: Oh my god. Now if that’s not over-lubrication, I don’t know what is. I’m surprised the guns don’t just self-destruct in the bucket.
Dave: Yeah. Sand’s just bein’ attracted to it.
Larry: Oh I know. Amazing. I’m just afraid that they’re gonna seize up right there. Blow apart.
Larry: So! I’ll take the M9 Baretta out, I got ten rounds, load it up, put ten rounds on the target. After that, we’ll take out the DanielDefense M4, load it up, put ten rounds on the other target.
Dave: Do you wanna wipe ’em down or anything?
Dave: Alright, I may be out of frame, because I know what you’re gonna look like.
Larry: Yeah, I’m gonna be a slimy mess, but that’s alright, I’m gonna prove a point.
Larry: Here we go. Here we go! I’ll be damned. It worked exactly as advertised! The gun didn’t self-destruct, Dave. Isn’t that amazing. Alright, now it’s time for the DDM-4. Ooh, she’s a little slimy. Another mag, Dave. [shooting] Unbelievable, Dave! Who’da guessed? It worked just fine.
Dave: Now, you do have more lube on you than some of the students that come to class have on their weapons.
Dave: I do want to say that you’re not telling them to do this.
Larry: No. This was to prove a point. It’s just like when you have a little kid, sometimes you gotta take things over the line to prove a point.
Dave: Definitely did that.
Larry: That’s why I did this. I’m certainly not recommending this for shooters out there to lubricate their weapon to this degree, this is obviously extreme, bu the bottom line is, over-lubrication is a myth. What we see is under-lubrication, and very rarely improper lubrication for the given conditions. Remember, your weapon is a machine, and just like your car, you wouldn’t run it without oil, and you damn sure shouldn’t be runnin’ your gun without oil.
Source: Vickers Tactical Youtube, TAC-TV
Here’s a tricked out AK47 that you don’t come across everyday. Have a look at this Russian Alpha AK. Not the real deal but a clone imitation of the ones used by the Russian Counter Terrorist unit. Here is a list of items that Vicker and company used to clone this Alpha AK:
Larry here demos and goes over some of the pieces that was used and he gives us some sources to check out.
Hey everybody, if you’re fans of my shows, you probably noticed a couple years ago I had the opportunity to go to Russia, and do some filming with the Alpha Guys, the FSB Alpha Counter-Terrorist guys. Now while we were over there, we noticed they had some tricked-out AKs with a lot of western influence, but also with some Russian accessories, stuff that I’d never seen before. I snapped some pictures while I was there, put ’em on social media, and it went viral. We’ve had a lot of requests, and now I’m gonna run you through my own personal Alpha Clone AK.
Now I call it “Alpha Inspired”, because it’s not exactly like theirs, but it is very similar. I’ll take you through it.
First off, I used an Arsenal Semiautomatic Bulgarian-made AK. In five-five six. The only reason I use five-five six is that’s what I had on hand. The Russians we saw, they were using five-four-five and Seven-six-two by thirty-nine. Not that they are opposed to five-five six, matter of fact we saw at least one guy who was using an M4 in five-five six. Their AKs were five-four-five or Seven-six-two by Thirty-nine. So if you wanted to be spot-on correct, those are the two flavors you need to take a look at.
The guns we saw were in the mid-length format, just like this one, alright? Also, the ones we saw had some variety of the Bulgarian Krink Flash suppressor like this, the four-piece flash suppressor. The rail is a Russian-made Zenit rail. This was very difficult to source; it still is. Alright, I’m gonna tell you right off the bat, if you’re gonna try to clone this gun, this is not gonna be an easy piece to get. The proper Zenit rail for this is difficult to get, but in my opinion it’s key, because it kinda makes the gun. Now they were running PQ15s, this happens to be a Wilson Raptor Light that I had given to me, so that’s what I put on it. Very grip and extended charging handle, this is a Traumix one, and I’ve just been told prior to filming here, that this is no longer made. However, I will give you a source for some key parts for this at the end of the video.
Now it has a Krebs extended safety here, and that’s exactly what the Russians were using, they were also using a Texas Weapon System top cover. Now this top cover has a mixed reputation for retaining zero, but I asked the Russians about it, and they were perfectly happy with it, so for their purposes, it retained zero just fine.
Now they had a mix of red-dot sights, of course I saw some micros, and that’s what -needless to say- I stuck on here, I have a Throwlever mount, with a MicroB and my favorite red dot, this Aimpoint product was a no-brainer.
Coming back here, it has a US Palm Pistol Grip, Also it has an SRVV side folder trunnion. Alright, now, that’s another Russian product, and it is not easy to get. So once again, I’m gonna point you in the direction where you can find one of these SRVVs. It does fold to the side, retractable buttstock, and of course I topped it off with my Blue Force Gear Vickers Sling. And Brownells Aluma-Hyde paint, and you have what I call my Alpha-Inspired AK Clone.
Now, my recommendation: Go to Circle10AK.com. Luke is the guy that runs that website, and he will help you source some of the key parts to build your own Alpha Clone. Pretty cool gun.
Hey thanks for watching the Vickers Tactical Youtube channel. To subscribe click here, and to watch some of my favorite videos, click here. Have a good one. LAV out.
Source: Vickers Tactical Youtube, Reddit, Ar15.com
This slow-motion video of a Wilson Combat 1911 firing is incredibly awesome. They say a picture is worth a thousand words but video brings it to another level in astonishment.
Larry Vicker gives us an inside look at the 1911. Special thanks to Wilson Combat and their gunsmiths who made this cut-away 1911 specifically for this video.
So much happens in the blink of an eye at the moment one fires a handgun. Vicker’s Tactical shot some incredible footage of a 1911 Wilson Combat firing at around 6900 frames per second. (estimated)
Seems like we’re all fascinated with watching things that are fast go in slow motion. Guess its all about the appreciation and the beauty of it all, check it out.
Very cool handgun video, amazed to see the bullet actually leaving the gun and everything else you can’t see when you fire a gun with the naked eye. Or as another viewer puts it “the blow by at ignition before the bullet leaves the barrel. The shock wave behind the base of the bullet on exit. And the particles of un-burnt propellant after everything else has cleared the chamber”.
by J Hines
Source: Wilson Combat, Vicker’s Tactical
First introduced in 1975, it is one of the original “wonder nines” featuring a staggered-column magazine, all-steel construction, and a hammer forged barrel. It is widely distributed throughout the world. It is the most common handgun in the Czech Republic. Like most fully automatic firearms, accuracy sort of goes out the window, with the CZ you also need to apply some death grip to hang onto it. But on the Hollywood side, you sure look good shooting it!
Larry Vickers here, and I’ve got a fairly rare machine pistol for you this time. This is the CZ-75 Machine Pistol. My friends at Center Firearms out here in Las Vegas loaned it to me and the crew, to come out here to the range to light it up for you. Let me take you through some of the features.
Notice the longer barrel that is ported. Now the safety also acts as not only a manual safety, but the selector. That’s safe. If I bring it down one, that’s semi. If I come down all the way, that’s full-auto. There’s actually a spring-loaded lever on the safety itself. If you apply downward and forward pressure, it’ll go all the way down to fully-automatic.
One of the unique features of it, you use a spare magazine as somewhat of a foregrip. It has a little spring-loaded detent right here, and the bottom of the baseplate is notched and grooved to accomodate it sliding on the front to use as a vert grip.
There’s no buttstock attachment, so you’ve got to have good technique in order to control this thing. Although these machine pistols might look cool, in actual use in the real world they’re pretty lame, Hence why they never made much of a splash in law enforcement or military use.
We’re gonna load this up, put up some targets, and light it up for your benefit. Stay tuned.
Hey gang, before we go live here, a couple observations. Just like a standard CZ-75, if the hammer’s down in the double-action mode, you can not put it on safe. You can, however, select semi or full-auto. So your very first shot from double-action will go right into automatic or semi if that’s what you want. Now of course, like a standard CZ-75, if you’ve got the hammer cocked, you can put the gun on manual safety.
It doesn’t have the elongated trigger guard, like the Baretta 93-R does, so in order to hold onto that magazine up front, you don’t have the ability to hook that thumb through the trigger guard, which would be a real plus with this gun, especially since there’s no buttstock.
Magazine-wise, in order to detatch the front one, you’ve got to push this lever up and slide it off, at that point you will not have a vert grip of any kind. I’ve done a little test-firing here, my call is this thing’ll burst and it’ll be pretty brutal. I’m gonna try to keep the burst down to two and three shots to the best of my ability, and we’ll see what kind of muzzle-rise we get. Here we go. We are going hot.[Numerous shots]
Fairly rare bird in the United States for a post-sample…machine pistol in this case, CZ-75, fully automatic. Hope you enjoyed it!
Source: Wikipedia, Vicker’s Tactical Youtube