This is always interesting:
Reminds me of all the Alex Jones rants about this sort of thing. I watched a few of them, and there was definite confirmation bias so I lost interest. On a related note, is Alex Jones still around and ranting? (nm I guess he is… he appears at 10min in this video). Seems like he entirely vanished off the face of the internet since Trump got elected. I imagine if Hillary got in, it would have been much better for his business haha
Man, I’m not saying David Hogg is a “Crisis Actor” but holy that kid isn’t very likable.
12:40 – *spits out my coffee all over the screen and my parent’s basement carpet* ALEX JONES MAKES $50M A YEAR?! 🤔 😭
14:20 – Damn, even Wolfgang is caked up. Those have got to be 17ft+ ceilings in the crib.
14:49 – “Guns guns guns, it’s all about guns. New legislation. I think there has been so much misinformation given by the national news. Now even the president of the United States calls them out as fake news.” I’ll agree with him on that one.
17:01 – LOL David Hogg’s mother and her friends “went after” this man who threatened her online. LOL at it being the most effective strategy.
19:20 – WHOA now that escalated quickly. “No one came to this place you lying sack of shit government mf sellout bitch”.
21:15 – Holy they are gonna cap this guy. He better chill.
Like Wolfgang said, it seems to me that the media again is to blame. We are given SO MUCH information on all these massacres, even incredibly minute details. Since we don’t have ALL the information (homeland security reasons, graphic violence reasons etc…) people are bound to pick it apart (given what they know) and poke holes in the story which they feel was fabricated. I really don’t think a lot of these people could be convinced otherwise, unless they actually could walk through the scene, ID the victims themselves, and be next to the medical examiner who preforms the autopsy.
We recently were added to this round up of 12 Firearm experts on gun control by Ammunition Depot.
No guns on Facebook? We’ll see.
At the very beginning of 2016, Facebook banned gun sales on its site. But it’s not that hard to get around these rules.
With all the school shootings and mass murders, placenames now becoming shorthand for different shootings (Aurora, Sandy Hook, Charleston, etc.) one can hardly blame Facebook for getting cautious. Like any responsible company, they want their asses and assets covered. Still, that didn’t stop one Buzzfeed writer from buying an AR-15 (That oh-so-dangerous “Assault Rifle” everyone’s so afraid of) via facebook not far from San Bernardino.
See, while Facebook officially bans guns from their site, that doesn’t stop Facebook groups from being made, anyway. Algorithms can’t stop or solve everything.
Find the gun Sunday, send inquiry private message on Monday, sign the paperwork Tuesday, and ten days later (per California law), an AR-15.
As it was at the beginning of 2016, the gun restrictions were basically useless due to their algorithms. Sometimes guns were listed under codenames, or the groups were closed in hopes of hiding from algorithms. They aren’t illegal gun sales, they’re all by-the-book, just outside of Facebooks rules, forcing these things to possibly look a little shadier than expected.
Still, Facebook has our names, our pictures, more or less our entire identities– If someone’s planning something shady, Facebook probably has our red flags, too. In fact, some people reveal things on Facebook they would never reveal online. Maybe more gun sales need to happen on Facebook. It’s not foolproof, of course, but clearly nothing is. Many guns are bought legally before being used for great violence, and many guns are bought illegally for the same purpose. No change in facebook policy will eradicate bad people getting good guns.
One amusing detail from the Buzzfeed Video:
“The store clerk handed me the AR-15. It was exactly as advertised on Facebook. I pointed the gun at a stuffed moose head mounted on the wall and pulled the trigger. Snap.”
I can’t help but wonder if the store clerk immediately regretted his decision to hand over a gun to someone who points it at his wall decorations and pulls the trigger first-thing.
Someone who reported a great number of gun groups to facebook said that if he wanted to buy a gun illegally, it would take two minutes– but they never address the fact that the gun sale in this article was (according to the writer) completely legal. Were they talking about purchasing through facebook from these gun owners, or in general? Was this fear mongering or concern over something else entirely?
It’s a curious video, and the original comments are full of knowledgeable people pointing out holes where they mention bits and pieces of California law being left by the wayside, presumably for editorial reasons. The report seems balanced, but not incredibly knowledgeable.
What has your experience with the facebook anti-gun stance been? Have their algorithms gotten better, have they been better enforced, or just outright the extreme? (any mention of firearms in their ads, you are denied) Are they still miserable? Is this writer full of nonsense? Leave your comments to let us know.
Here’s the reaction to this feed on Facebook:
Story by Sam Morstan
Sources: Alex Kantrowitz, Buzzfeed News Reporter, Buzzfeed News Facebook, original story here