April 20th, 2017 by asjstaff

Does it really matter?

We all love a good argument, especially when it comes to guns. But I’m always amazed when people speak in absolutes about the merits of the .45 ACP versus the 9mm.

What’s funny is that even with ballistic data that we can access to use to debate our arguments. It’s still not enough to see the value objectively.

Reading data can be mind boggling or just too hard to visualize. Viewing pictures of the caliber aftermath may be the way to go.

Back in 2014, the FBI Academy from Quantico, VA released a report on why they were trending toward the 9mm over other options, including the .45 ACP and the .40 S&W. In case you missed it, here’s what that summary included:
May 6, 2014
FBI Training Division: FBI Academy, Quantico, VA
Executive Summary of Justification for Law Enforcement Partners

  • Caliber debates have existed in law enforcement for decades
  • Most of what is “common knowledge” with ammunition and its effects on the human target are rooted in myth and folklore
  • Projectiles are what ultimately wound our adversaries and the projectile needs to be the basis for the discussion on what “caliber” is best
  • In all the major law enforcement calibers there exist projectiles which have a high likelihood of failing LEO’s in a shooting incident and there are projectiles which have a high ting incident likelihood of succeeding for LEO’s in a shooting incident
  • Handgun stopping power is simply a myth
  • The single most important factor in effectively wounding a human target is to have penetration to a scientifically valid depth (FBI uses 12” – 18”)
  • LEO’s miss between 70 – 80 percent of the shots fired during a shooting incident
  • Contemporary projectiles (since 2007) have dramatically increased the terminal effectiveness of many premium line law enforcement projectiles (emphasis on the 9mm Luger offerings)
  • 9mm Luger now offers select projectiles which are, under identical testing conditions, I outperforming most of the premium line .40 S&W and .45 Auto projectiles tested by the FBI
  • 9mm Luger offers higher magazine capacities, less recoil, lower cost (both in ammunition and wear on the weapons) and higher functional reliability rates (in FBI weapons)
  • The majority of FBI shooters are both FASTER in shot strings fired and more ACCURATE with shooting a 9mm Luger vs shooting a .40 S&W (similar sized weapons)
  • There is little to no noticeable difference in the wound tracks between premium line law Auto enforcement projectiles from 9mm Luger through the .45 Auto
  • Given contemporary bullet construction, LEO’s can field (with proper bullet selection) 9mm Lugers with all of the terminal performance potential of any other law enforcement pistol caliber with none of the disadvantages present with the “larger” calibers

Interesting stuff, but it doesn’t motivate one to toss their .40s and .45s into the garbage can.
For the FBI it can be other behind the scenes reasons as to why they’re more inclined to go with the 9mm in this report, such as:

  • Numbers of recruits and officers certifying with the 9mm – competency level
  • Number of seasoned officers maintaining competency level.
  • Number of incident involving firearms and aftermath resulting in poor marksmanship with a specific caliber.

On a personal level distinguishing which is the better choice has to be several factors such as:

  • Ease of carry and to operate
  • Does the caliber function properly with good reliability under many conditions?
  • Does the model handgun and ammo fit well with my purpose to carry?

How about you all, which ammo would you go with and why?, tell us below in the comments.

Sources: FBI Academy, John B Snow

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January 6th, 2017 by jhines

Which Ballistics do you Use?

There are always debates on which is the better carry handgun and we get down to the ballistics, which is better?, a .357 Magnum or a 45ACP?
357vs45acpMost of us gun enthusiasts have an idea between the two ammo which is the more powerful. But even for the advanced and novice, sometimes its good to see the effects of the ballistics. The following is a penetration comparison of the two ammo and it is the un-scientific approach. Basically shoot at different type of objects and observe the effects.

In this .357 Magnum vs. .45 ACP penetration matchup, which ammo will dominate? Watch and let the results demonstrate the merits of each caliber choice.

TheFireArmGuy Youtuber matches .357 against .45 ACP at various ranges to determine the effectiveness of stopping power and penetration.


Results
It’s always a great match up that clearly defines the legendary stopping power of .45 ACP at shorter ranges, with .357 performing better for penetration at longer distances.

Historically, the .45 ACP was specifically designed for the US Army to be a knock down round at short distances; intended to put a man down with just a couple of shots and the impact on the masonry that you see in the video clearly shows this.

The .357 is more rifle-like and longer casing keeps a higher velocity at farther distances so this round out performed on the hardwood at longer ranges. Currently, it is a popular caliber, even hunters use it in carbines for that very good performance over longer ranges when compared to other pistol calibers.

So it is up to you as to which rounds you’d prefer all depending on your needs. Self defense minded only would probably go with the .45Acp versus someone more well rounded and into other things might choose the .357 for its longer range versatility. How about you all, which do you prefer or maybe you’re packing one of these, let us know in the comment below.

Source: TheFireArmGuy Youtube, Andy Van Loan


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